Hinduism: Ask your Questions

[Surya Deva]

Yep, because evolution is based on genetics and genetic mutations. The dolphin is nearly the same in intelligence as a human being, and it looks nothing like a human. In fact the dolphin had actually arrived on land before humans did(we know this from its evolutionary history) and had it remained it would have become the dominant intelligent species before us. There is no reason to believe that in the future that the dolphin will not evolve into a human(i.e., intelligent being) In fact it necessarily will according to Hinduism.

 

[Gharib]

ok i understand. if i get anymore questions i will ask and i hope you won't mind answering them. thanks for that i appreciate it.

one more quick question: are there any god-realised humans at present if yes do you know how many

 

[nawab]

Suraj how can you say that dolphins have the same intelligence as man, look at the acheivements of man which other creature except man has done, we have gone to the moon, the animals they defend their terriotories by fighting barbarically and we just by pressing buttons, how are we same as animals or dolphins precisely. i dont understand this part please explain, why did all the dolphins go to sea then, if they were on land before

 

[Luminous]

the life of an insect or anything appart from a human has no free will but that of a human does, right. so which of these life forms is better to be in. and do all animals turn to human if they follow that which they are sopposed to (they have no free will so they have to obey everything otherwise they don't become humans)

hindus are supposed to believe that animals also have free will and that there is somekind of escalating order of creature (higher creatures, lower creatures).

 

[Luminous]

that sounds fair enough. thanks for that.

so in a way even though an animal attacks (such as a lion) they still will get a higher life form (ie. a higher ranking closer to human). is that rue?

and does your religion tell you that which is the lowest life form, say you know that human form is better than all, because of the wrong and right decissions, and what is the second most better form after a human, do you have that sort of information in your scriptures or is that not important about which life form is better than which appart from human which is everyones aim in order to reach devinity and to merge into the higher being or the supreme being as you have said.

no, that explination was stupid. I hate hindu's uberrationalism.

 

[Luminous]

Ants live more moral lives than man.

 

[Surya Deva]

Nawab,

Do a search on dolphin intelligence, you will be quite surprised on how intelligent these animals are.

Divine spear, ants are completely mechanical creatures, almost like a live-wire. There is very little manifest consciousness in them. They are perhaps only one step above matter. Still, Hindus would not kill ants actively, but if they stepped on a couple on the way, they would not lose sleep over it - Jains would probably...

 

[nawab]

Dear Suraj i am not saying that they are completely idots, God almighty has given enough knowledge to all his creations according to its needs, i mean how can dolphins intelligence be any near to any human, just look at our civilisation and the animals world, we raise skycrappers and went to the moon, made remote control technology and radio waves and etc. none of the other creations have done that,

 

[Surya Deva]

Nawab, dolphins display their intelligence in different ways. Just as we are the most intelligent species on land, they are the most intelligent species in the sea. Of course it is near impossible to measure interspecial intelligence, but just look at studies in cognitive science, and you will be surprised at how intelligent these animals are, they are near human intelligence according to many studies.

I think you have to stop looking at humans as being completely distinct from animals. We are still quite close to being animal than being divine. We are in a state of becoming, not being.

 

[nawab]

i meaning is that we are not divine, and every creation has enough knowledge according to its needs but none of the other creations are even close to Humans, i beleive that this is a main difference between Humans and animals,

see Suraj, do not think that i am laughing at you or making fun of you, but see Animals dont care if anyone is looking at them or not they just start having sex anywhere they want but surely we humans dont do that, we belive in consequences, animals dont,

 

[Breathe]

Yep, because evolution is based on genetics and genetic mutations. The dolphin is nearly the same in intelligence as a human being, and it looks nothing like a human. In fact the dolphin had actually arrived on land before humans did(we know this from its evolutionary history) and had it remained it would have become the dominant intelligent species before us. There is no reason to believe that in the future that the dolphin will not evolve into a human(i.e., intelligent being) In fact it necessarily will according to Hinduism.

Hmmm, this has led me to another question, Suraj.

My question is, what do Hindus think about animal hybridization and animal-human hybridization?

For example, someone breeding a lion and a polar bear confused, and someone artificially creating a dolphin-human cross-breed. Would such things be forbidden within Hinduism?

I myself find the concept of a human dolphin to be awesome, and I want them to "resurrect" the Neanderthal, but I'd like to know a Hindus stance on it?

Sorry for the lame examples, but I think you understand what I mean.

 

[Surya Deva]

Odion, thanks for your question.

There is nothing prohibited within Hinduism. In Left Hand Tantra, you are even allowed to indulge in extreme sex, violence and all kinds of acts we would consider immoral. I do not particularly endorse that path, but some souls need to go through a path like this to be ready for the right hand paths. Just along as one knows that every action will have a reaction. Breeding animals and humans, or animals with other animals is man going against nature, and henceforth it is going to carry a karmic reaction.

As one guru I heard say recently, "Do anything you like, as long as you responsible for your act and mindful of its consequences" If you are willing to accept the consequence for your act, then go ahead and do it. There is no eternal hell or heaven for any of your actions.

 

[Breathe]

Thank you Suraj
I didn't know about the Left Hand Tantra.

Can you explain more about the karmic reaction if one breeds animals and humans/cross-breeds animals? Would it be limited to the people who perform the actions (scientists), or supporters, also?

The fact there is no heaven or hell for one's actions, I like it. I'd like to ask about moksha, soon.

 

[Surya Deva]

I can't really second-guess Karma, because the result is completely out of our control and based on so many variables unknown to us. I can only come to an approximation of what could happen(the dualist plane is all probability)

The first reaction would be social and ethical. It will lead to many people protesting against it, making it dificult to implement.

The second reaction would be such as hybrids could turn out very wrong and cause damage. It could become a case of Frakenstein's monster.

The third reaction countering all the ethics may lead to biotechnology going further and creating genetic weapons, viruses with the potential to destroy the entire population.

The fourth reaction could be such hybrids might regress us further back in evolution.

One cannot be certain of what would happen, but can still make an educated guess.

 

[Surya Deva]

Nawab,

There are plenty of humans that have sex in front of others, and don't care. The reason people feel such behaviour is wrong is due to social norms. In places where such norms are not present(such as swingers clubs) it is not considered abnormal.

I understand there are differences between humans and animals, but they are not as singificant as you suggest. Humans and animals are part of an evolutionary spectrum, where animals are lower down and humans are higher up.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

Dear Suraj i am not saying that they are completely idots, God almighty has given enough knowledge to all his creations according to its needs, i mean how can dolphins intelligence be any near to any human, just look at our civilisation and the animals world, we raise skycrappers and went to the moon, made remote control technology and radio waves and etc. none of the other creations have done that,

Nawab, all creatures exhibit an intelligence of their own in their own way. Intelligence should not and is not confined to what humans believe intelligence to be. Dolphins, in their own way are extremely intelligent compared to a lot of the animal worlds.

Dolphins are limited due to the shape of their body, they cannot do things that humans can do. If you had a dolphin that came in human form they could probably do a lot of things we can.

 

[nawab]

i dont think that the shape of the body as anything to do with it, we humans dont have wings but still we found a way to fly, thats because to the knowledge, just because dolphins can do a few tricks and might be smarter than a few other animals do not mean that their knowledge can be comparred with Human

 

[Don Penguinoini]

i dont think that the shape of the body as anything to do with it, we humans dont have wings but still we found a way to fly, thats because to the knowledge, just because dolphins can do a few tricks and might be smarter than a few other animals do not mean that their knowledge can be comparred with Human

We have the capability to do so much more, not because we are intelligent, because we have evolved to a state where this is all possible. Humans can fly because they can built things, dophins may be able to accumulate things but they cannot build. They can only survive in water, on ground they remain stationary and cannot move.

I suggest you do some research, nawab without straight away trying to debunk these facts. This is not Hindu belief, these are things that are generally accepted by the scientific community.

 

[nawab]

so if they can only live in water and on land they are stationary then it only proves that us Humans are the perfect creation,

 

[Surya Deva]

Humans are perfect? Okay...