Hinduist would you agree with this statement?

[Jaskaran Singh]

You mean Maalika

And may be it is indeed connected with Semitic word because it is well known that Kerala had good trade contacts with the Arabs.
Some of us even have middle eastern DNA lol....

This provides a different etymology
Proto-South Dravidian : *mal-
Meaning : fertile, rich
Dravidian etymology: Dravidian etymology
Tamil : mal
Tamil meaning : fertility, richness, strength
Tamil derivates : malar (-v-, -nt-) to abound, become full; mali (-v-, -nt-) to abound, be plentiful, be full, increase, be proud, become large, swell, spread, expand; malipu excess, abundance; malir (-v-, -nt-) to flood, come frequently; malivu abundance, fullness, cheerfulness; malku (malki-) to increase, abound, grow, flourish; mallal strength, abundance, wealth, fertility, richness, elegance, brilliance, beauty; mallai richness, fertility, greatness
Malayalam : malika
Malayalam meaning : to abound, overflow
Malayalam derivates : malekka to grow thick, swell; malka to abound
Kannada : male
Kannada meaning : to be raised or elevated, be haughty, be puffed up, insolent, act in an overbearing manner
Kannada derivates : malya great, big, chief, principal; mallaḷi a large concourse, crowd; (PBh.) mammala, malamala excessively
Tulu : malla, mallavu, mallāvu
Tulu meaning : great, large, big, extensive, chief, principal, important, loud
Tulu derivates : mallastigè, mallādigè greatness, superiority, loftiness, pride; mallāye a man senior in age, rich man, grown-up man; fem. mallāḷụ
Proto-Nilgiri : *mal_-
Number in DED : 4729

 

[Tyaga]

Still, if they were civilized, then why would they call themselves mleccha? That seems awfully counter-intuitive; mleccha is used to refer to uncivilized people like medieval Turks and that sort, never as a self-identifier.

Parpola is pro AIT(he still follows the old Aryan vs Dasyu theory,but he identifies Dasyus with the Bactrians).According to Parpola,the Aryans got this term from the Draividan name of Indus valley(i.e mel-akam).

 

[Tyaga]

This provides a different etymology
Proto-South Dravidian : *mal-
Meaning : fertile, rich
Dravidian etymology: Dravidian etymology
Tamil : mal
Tamil meaning : fertility, richness, strength
Tamil derivates : malar (-v-, -nt-) to abound, become full; mali (-v-, -nt-) to abound, be plentiful, be full, increase, be proud, become large, swell, spread, expand; malipu excess, abundance; malir (-v-, -nt-) to flood, come frequently; malivu abundance, fullness, cheerfulness; malku (malki-) to increase, abound, grow, flourish; mallal strength, abundance, wealth, fertility, richness, elegance, brilliance, beauty; mallai richness, fertility, greatness
Malayalam : malika
Malayalam meaning : to abound, overflow
Malayalam derivates : malekka to grow thick, swell; malka to abound
Kannada : male
Kannada meaning : to be raised or elevated, be haughty, be puffed up, insolent, act in an overbearing manner
Kannada derivates : malya great, big, chief, principal; mallaḷi a large concourse, crowd; (PBh.) mammala, malamala excessively
Tulu : malla, mallavu, mallāvu
Tulu meaning : great, large, big, extensive, chief, principal, important, loud
Tulu derivates : mallastigè, mallādigè greatness, superiority, loftiness, pride; mallāye a man senior in age, rich man, grown-up man; fem. mallāḷụ
Proto-Nilgiri : *mal_-
Number in DED : 4729

Thank you! Although,wtf is proto-Nilgiri?

 

[Jaskaran Singh]

Thank you! Although,wtf is proto-Nilgiri?

To be honest, I have no idea. I just copy and pasted it from some Russian "Etymological Database Project" site.

 

[Jaskaran Singh]

Parpola is pro AIT(he still follows the old Aryan vs Dasyu theory,but he identifies Dasyus with the Bactrians).According to Parpola,the Aryans got this term from the Draividan name of Indus valley(i.e mel-akam).

You're still missing the point. Even if he did believe in AIT, why would the so-called "nomadic Aryans" call the Indus Valley people uncivilized? Also, I find it odd that people who think that the Indus script is an actual script (like Parpola) even have any credibility anymore. The longest Indus inscription is only 17 characters long; even Gimbutas' "Old European" Vinca theory has more credibility than the Indus script being a form of writing. Scratch that, even the Jiangzhai symbols are more likely a form of writing than the Indus "script," lol.

 

[Tyaga]

You're still missing the point. Even if he did believe in AIT, why would the so-called "nomadic Aryans" call the Indus Valley people uncivilized?

You should ask Parpola himself

Also, I find it odd that people who think that the Indus script is an actual script (like Parpola) even have any credibility anymore. The longest Indus inscription is only 17 characters long; even Gimbutas' "Old European" Vinca theory has more credibility than the Indus script being a form of writing. Scratch that, even the Jiangzhai symbols are more likely a form of writing than the Indus "script," lol.

Wait,so you are leaning towards Steve Farmer's thesis?

And if Indus symbols doesn't represent a script,then what on earth is it?

 

[Aupmanyav]

He claims meluhha and mleccha are derived from Dravidian name of the Harappan civilization 'mel-akam' literally "high place/abode/inside etc.

Harappa was not a particularly high place. 541 ft. above sea-level. Mohenjodaro (Moyan-jo-dero) is even less, just 171 ft. above sea-level.

 

[Jaskaran Singh]

You should ask Parpola himself

Wait, so do you mean that my question is stupid, or do you agree that Parpola's conclusion makes little sense?

Wait,so you are leaning towards Steve Farmer's thesis?

And if Indus symbols doesn't represent a script,then what on earth is it?

Has there ever been a language where the longest inscription found of that language is less than 20 characters?

 

[Tyaga]

Harappa was not a particularly high place. 541 ft. above sea-level. Mohenjodaro (Moyan-jo-dero) is even less, just 171 ft. above sea-level.

Pranam,

He assumes the name for entire IVC,not just to Harappa and MJD.

Anyway i'm not defending his claims because i don't believe in AIT myself

 

[Tyaga]

Wait, so do you mean that my question is stupid, or do you agree that Parpola's conclusion makes little sense?

No no!

I am not defending his theories nor i think your question is stupid.Anyway doesn't the term mleccha simply mean 'foreigner'?Or does it always refer to uncivilized barbarians?

Has there ever been a language where the longest inscription found of that language is less than 20 characters?

May be one Indus symbol had multiple pronunciations?

 

[Aupmanyav]

He assumes the name for entire IVC,not just to Harappa and MJD.

Anyway i'm not defending his claims because i don't believe in AIT myself

There were no high places in the whole of IVC. Oh, you believe in 'Out of India' theory. So, Aryan influence in Iran, Central Asia, Caucasus, Anatolia, Balkans, Greece, Rome, and Celtic countries, spread out of India.

 

[Tyaga]

There were no high places in the whole of IVC. Oh, you believe in 'Out of India' theory. So, Aryan influence in Iran, Central Asia, Caucasus, Anatolia, Balkans, Greece, Rome, and Celtic countries, spread out of India.

I also prefer neolithic Anatolian hypothesis

 

[Aupmanyav]

Many theories. "According to another view the Anatolian subgroup left the Indo-European parent language comparatively late, approximately at the same time as Indo-Iranian and later than the Greek or Armenian divisions.

Recent subgrouping calculations of Indo-European branches using a method that accounts for the distribution of PIE verbs (SLR-D) reject an early separation of Anatolian languages altogether and yield results that place a genealogical split of Anatolian (and Tocharian) within a more recent grouping together with Greek, Albanian and Armenian, in a single branch together with Indo-Iranian, though at distance from the genealogical splits of Balto-Slavic, Italo-Celtic and Germanic that are harboured within another branch, thus supporting proponents of an IE expansion that roughly parallels the adoption of the bronze metallurgy." Indo-Hittite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I go by the RigVedic evidence.

 

[Tyaga]

I go by the RigVedic evidence.

Hope you are not talking about Arctic theory