Hindus should restart worshipping Indra

[Viraja]

We should all work hard to get along and teach each other of what we believe and not tell others they are wrong, we have other religions to do that to us we shouldn't do it to our brothers and sisters.

Lemaster,

Why do you think correcting others is wrong? Afterall, many of us are on the lookout for gurus because 'they correct us', 'show us the way'. When we know something is incorrect, we should all first jump into the opportunity and be brave to point out the mistake, is it not?

But there are some cases like ThunderRD's suggestion that everyone should let go of their present ishtadevata and switch over to his, this is incorrect.

 

[Kalidas]

Lemaster,

Why do you think correcting others is wrong? Afterall, many of us are on the lookout for gurus because 'they correct us', 'show us the way'. When we know something is incorrect, we should all first jump into the opportunity and be brave to point out the mistake, is it not?

But there are some cases like ThunderRD's suggestion that everyone should let go of their present ishtadevata and switch over to his, this is incorrect.

There is a difference between someone not understanding something and someone having a different understanding. Him and I have different views of Kali maa, I am not wring he is not wrong it is just different. Now if he or I would say there is ONLY one to see Kali maa THAT would be in my opinion wrong.

People ARE capable of being wrong but because of ignorance or lack of understanding NOT because they have different views.

Facts are facts our opinion formed on facts is another story.

 

[ThunderRD]

Just so you know this, technically trying to convert people is against the rules. I won't etc mad though . Of course she is a goddess. Would I like to worship her? Not particularly not because I am against against her. I just get all I need (for now) from Kali. I don't worship Durga or Shakti either. Ultimately there is only one divine and the deities are emanations of this divine so any true devotion to a deity is true devotion to divine.

But thank you for asking your question in such a nice way. For as long as the conversation keeps up with this calm peaceful tone I would love to continue posting. We should all work hard to get along and teach each other of what we believe and not tell others they are wrong, we have other religions to do that to us we shouldn't do it to our brothers and sisters.

How can I convert you ? You and me are both Hindus.

However I feel bad that Indra and Shachi who were such an important deities during Vedic times have now lost their importance.

 

[Kalidas]

How can I convert you ? You and me are both Hindus.

However I feel bad that Indra and Shachi who were such an important deities during Vedic times have now lost their importance.

Their still important to you, I wouldn't call that a lose of importance. Hold on to them with all your heart and devotion. Within the temple that is your heart they will never lose importance.

 

[ThunderRD]

Their still important to you, I wouldn't call that a lose of importance. Hold on to them with all your heart and devotion. Within the temple that is your heart they will never lose importance.

Nice words

 

[ThunderRD]

Good point. It was Krishna Himself who explicitly told the villagers not to worship Indra.

Jainarayan you have studied about Krishna. So what was the exact reason behind Krishna asking villagers of Gokul to stop worship of Indra ?

 

[Jainarayan]

Because Indra became too full of himself. It's in the story of the Lifting of Govardhan Hill.

 

[Kalidas]

Nice words

Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed them. Who knows what will happen in the future. It may be I watching the worship of Kali maa leaving. I wont let that stop me. Let your love and devotion guide you not other people.

 

[Poeticus]

Though Puranas are popular it does not necessarily mean that they are true. If Rigved says that Indra is Supreme God it is better to accept it as Rigved is the earliest scriptures of Hinduism.

Namaste,

Lord Indra went through transitions, as you may have noticed. The ritualistic and sacrificial age was damaged greatly by the Shramanic traditions. The warlike nature of Ancient Hinduism (Vedism) fizzled out. Along with this transition, Lord Indra too lost sway over the Indians; the Upanishads were also responsible for his demise: they personally attacked the rigid ritualism present during that time period. The Puranas, on the other hand, weren't responsible for Lord Indra's demise. They were simply putting into word what had been a prevalent sentiment at the time of their conception. Furthermore, a majority of the Puranas were metaphorical allegories to the Hindu struggle against Abrahamism.

Personally, I admire Rigvedic Lord Indra quite a lot. The following hymn should exponentiate his significance and importance:

"yo jAta eva prathamo manasvAn devo devAn kratunA paryabhUSat
yasya shuSmAd rodasI abhyasetAM nRmNasya mahnA sa janAsa indraH" (R.V.2.12.1)

"He (Lord Indra) who, just born, Chief God of lofty spirit by power and might became the Gods' protector; before whose breath through greatness of his valour the two worlds trembled, He, O men, is Indra."

But, it would be logical and appropriate to state that Ancient Hinduism was not centered around the worship of Lord Indra like it was in Ancient Greece when it came to Zeus. Lord Indra had constant assistance from the other (Shri) Gods during his exploits, the pairing of Indra-Vishnu and Indra-Agni proves this.

Anyways, I am new here and this would be my first post.

ps - Can anyone tell me how to edit my signature? I can't find it anywhere..

जय श्री कृष्ण

 

[Poeticus]

Good question... no idea.

Namaste

The śankha (शं&#2326 is very important to Lord Shrī Vishnu:

"The shankha is praised in Hindu scriptures as a giver of fame, longevity and prosperity, the cleanser of sin and the abode of Lakshmi, who is the goddess of wealth and consort of Vishnu."**

Lord Shrī Vishnu is the lavisher of wealth and prosperity as per the scriptures:

"Thou, Lord Vishnu, constant in thy courses, gifted good-will to all men, and a hymn that lasteth, that thou might move us to abundant comfort of very splendid wealth with store of horses." (R.V.7.100.2)

**James Hornell (1914). The sacred Chank of India: A monograph of the Indian Conch (Turbinella pyrum) - Online Book. The Superintendent, Government Press, Madras.

जय श्री कृष्ण

 

[Sumit]

जय श्री कृष्ण[/B]

Welcome to the forums. You can add signature only after you write certain no of posts.

 

[Kalidas]

Welcome to the forums. You can add signature only after you write certain no of posts.

Actually I think it's a certain number of frubals.

 

[Poeticus]

Welcome to the forums. You can add signature only after you write certain no of posts.

Namaste Sumitji,

Thank you for welcoming me. I admire these forums because my replies are posted automatically without being waited upon for approval by a moderator.

जय श्री कृष्ण

 

[Poeticus]

Actually I think it's a certain number of frubals.

Namaste, lemaster13:

How many number of frubals would that be in your guested estimation? I hope not a lot.

जय श्री कृष्ण

 

[Kalidas]

Namaste, lemaster13:

How many number of frubals would that be in your guested estimation? I hope not a lot.

जय श्री कृष्ण

I think 25

 

[Kalidas]

Namaste, lemaster13:

How many number of frubals would that be in your guested estimation? I hope not a lot.

जय श्री कृष्ण

oh sorry I forgot WELCOME. Excuse my rudness

 

[Poeticus]

oh sorry I forgot WELCOME. Excuse my rudness

Namaste,

No problem. Thank you for welcoming me to this forum. If I may ask, how is Hinduism treating you?

जय श्री कृष्ण

 

[Kalidas]

Namaste,

No problem. Thank you for welcoming me to this forum. If I may ask, how is Hinduism treating you?

जय श्री कृष्ण

Better then Christianity did lol.
No but in all seriousness, I enjoy my "new" (not quit new anymore huh? been 2 years) faith. I love my dear Maa Kali very much and I can feel her return the feeling, can't say I have ever felt that before anywhere else.

 

[Poeticus]

Better then Christianity did lol.
No but in all seriousness, I enjoy my "new" (not quit new anymore huh? been 2 years) faith. I love my dear Maa Kali very much and I can feel her return the feeling, can't say I have ever felt that before anywhere else.

Namaste,

That is awesome to hear. I hope Hindu Dharma can answer all the questions you will have. There is really no rigidness in this noble faith, as you may have noticed. The battle to detract your consciousness and subconsciousness from the past influence of Abrahamic thought and dogma will be hard. The world today is majority Abrahamic. Unfortunately, they have dictated globally what the notions of "God" and "religion" are supposed to be. But, in Hindu Dharma it is your own journey, as you already know. Each step will bring you closer to Shrī Kāli Mā and the other Gods and Goddesses as well. Also, please understand that polytheism isn't horrible as the Abrahamic world makes it out to be; always keep in mind what many Hindu historians and theologians have concluded: that polytheism is the greater sophistication and evolved consciousness of a contemplative as well as a creative mind.

जय श्री कृष्ण

 

[ThunderRD]

Because Indra became too full of himself. It's in the story of the Lifting of Govardhan Hill.

I read the story. As you know that Indra causes rain. Even Rigved sys the same. Rain is essential for survival of human beings. So what was wrong if villagers of Gokul were expressing gratitude towards Indra by worshipping him ? Why did this hurt Krishna ? Was he jealous ?

You say that. Indra was full of himself. But in this situation it seems Krishna was full of pride. Does it befit any God to ask people to stop worshipping another God ?

As I am typing it is raining over here. These days the rainy season is in full swing in India. I am experiencing the manifestation of Indra in front of my eyes. It is such a wonderful feeling. I feel that Indra is close to me.