JayJayDee
Avid JW Bible Student
Are rabbits, trees or eggs an offense to God? Did He not create them and call them good?
Yes he did, and when people turn God's creation into symbols of false worship, I imagine that He is somewhat angry about that.
All of creation exists to glorify God and give testimony to Him. Whether or not pagans used various animals or symbols from creation as symbols for their gods is irrelevant.
The golden calf incident springs to mind. What was God's response? "How nice of you to turn me into a calf and have a nice party for me" ? or death for all who engaged in this idolatrous worship? Irrelevant? I don't think so.
If creation is fundamentally good, and if creation itself bears witness to God, then it is our duty as Christians to reclaim the nature-derived symbols used by pagans and again use these symbols from nature as a testimony to God and His truths.
Reclaim them? Is that what God told Israel to do in connection with the worship of the Canaanites? I believe that sex was a huge part of their worship. Wasn't sex created by God? When it was used in a depraved way in false worship, it took on a grubby tone and became something for which God's worshippers could be put to death. I don't believe that your argument stands up.
God came first, then paganism. Bunnies, trees, eggs, etc. were originally symbols that gave testimony to God. Only later did corrupted and fallen man use these God-given creatures to give testimony to their own false gods.
Exactly, so why adopt them as though their presence in our worship is not offensive to God? He does not change. Nowhere in scripture will you find either the Israelites or the Christians adopting a pagan form of worship and "washing" it so as to make it acceptable to God. Paul said to "separate" from those things, not celebrate them.
No actually, I haven't. What about them? Are we talking converted by Christendom or Christ? Big difference.Do you believe that God told his people to "wash" the pagan practices of the Canaanites so as to make them acceptable to him? Or were they told NOT to imitate their practices at all? (Deut 18:9) Can you show me where Jesus ever advocated such a thing?
I assume you've never heard of Armenia or Kievan Rus', then?
If the Christmas festival is virtually the exact same one that the pagans celebrated, but only the name of the deity has changed, then I think you are mistaken.Alright, and we don't worship any other gods by having Christmas trees or Easter eggs.
The evergreen tree was a symbol of life through the darkness of of winter when other trees appeared to die. Magical powers were attributed to it. And the Spring brought all the dead trees magically to life. Eggs were a symbol of life. Rabbits were a symbol of reproduction, glorifying sex. You want to support that nonsense?
Christmas has no connection to Christ at all. He was not born in December. In fact his birthdate is not recorded in the scriptures because Jews did not celebrate birthdays. Recording of birth dates was for the casting of horoscopes. The Jews were forbidden to practice astrology and spiritism.
If Christ did not celebrate his own birthday and did not command us to do so, why would we adopt something purely pagan and pretend that its Christian?
Easter is not a word you will find in scripture either and "Pashe" or "Passover" is not something commanded for Christians. It was a commemoration of Israel's being saved from the angel of death by the blood of the Passover Lamb when the last of the ten plagues were brought on Egypt. It is a purely Jewish celebration. Passover is not applicable to Christians because we have the true Passover Lamb whose blood was sacrificed for us. Jesus told us to commemorate that event. He mentioned nothing about his resurrection.
Oh, I see it. It's just that there is no fusing of false worship with true worship in Christianity.
That is just the point. Christendom embraced paganism and simply re-labelled it. Paul said to "separate" from those things, not jump into bed with them.
You do understand what "separate" means?
If we love the truth, we would love what God loves and hate what he hates.Alright, and I don't take pleasure in unrighteousness, and I love the truth.
Taking pleasure in a pagan celebration dressed up as Christian is not exactly loving the truth IMO. But you are free to choose to do so.
How can God love what he has already condemned? His command to Israel was not to adopt the pagan practices of the Canaanites....period.