Homosexual is about genetic or hormons, or what ?

[leibowde84]

While there may be many contributing factors, I think it is primarily caused by what we think about and allow our minds to dwell on. All sorts of wrong conduct come from our own imperfect and wayward desires (Matthew 15:19) That being the case, people with homosexual tendencies are not doomed to follow that lifestyle, any more than an alcoholic is doomed to be a drunk. Coming to know the true God and how he feels about homosexuality can be a strong motivation to reject such wrong conduct. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

Do you know what it's like to battle your own sexual orientation? Not sexual desires, but the sex that you feel true love for and seek permanent companionship with? Would you be able to force yourself to have sex with a member of the same sex if the shoe was on the other foot? Because, I sure couldn't. I guess I could be celibate, but I wouldn't want to force that kind of solitude on any person in the world. We all should want each other to find someone they want to spend the rest of their lives with. It's hard enough to find as it is without know-nothing know-it-alls that want to share society to their subjective beliefs.

People are different. What might offend you, might make someone else genuinely happy. We need to stop judging people and encourage this kind of companionship and commitment. Live and help others to do the same.

 

[jeager106]

Don't know; don't care.
I judge no one in these matters.
I'm straight (dislike labels) and never had an inkling of a thought to engage in homosexual activity. To me it's disgusting, but then
some people eat eggs considered disgusting in other cultures.
I eat raw oysters which makes some of my friends gag.
(poor people denying themselves a real treat)
But those examples are distant from sexual activity. Or are they?
I have had close male friends that were homosexual and never
once did they even suggest anything of a sexual nature with me.
They were simply my friends.

 

[Jainarayan]

People are too hung up with what other people do with their boy and girl parts. I really don't know why, except that it's prurient and titillating for many people.

 

[jonathan180iq]

So the matter does rest on the question; "Who is the true God?" Jehovah challenges the false gods to prove their godship.

And I challenge Jehova to prove his...

Jehovah proves he is the true God by foretelling what he will do and then bringing about what he prophesies. (Isaiah 46:9,10 and 43:9) None of the false gods can prove their godship.

Strange the only evidence for Jehova's godship is shrouded in the presupposition of hindsight, don't you think?

 

[Jainarayan]

Jehovah challenges the false gods to prove their godship

Does he? When and where?

 

[Revoltingest]

People are too hung up with what other people do with their boy and girl parts. I really don't know why, except that it's prurient and titillating for many people.

But I like to judge & talk about private parts!

 

[Jainarayan]

But I like to judge & talk about private parts!

Comparing and contrasting!?

 

[Revoltingest]

Comparing and contrasting!?

Mostly pointing & laughing.

 

[Godobeyer]

Best to explain it. My mother and father are straight. I am lesbian. My ex is lesbian. Her two natually born children are straight. I know a mother from PLAG support groupnI go to sometimes. She just found out almost twenty years later her son was not only gay, in our part of the world but straight as in he is transgender.

None have anything to do with the genetics of our parents. I didnt have a preposition to be lesbian. And so on.

I do believe it is biological when it comes to physiological and mental feelings. I also think its environmental because our identity is shaped by how we are raised etc. For example, I used to practice ASLwith Deaf (not deaf) individuals. Some people said they identified first with their Deaf community and then second as a philipino, chinese, african american.

Same way with the gay community. Environment has a lot of influence on how we see ourselves and That is part of our sexual orientation.

There are a lot of factors involved in any persons identity and physical and mental characterics that make it up whether one is straight, gay, Deaf, deaf, tall, short, whatever.

Also.

Why do religions see it wrong? They dont. It is the culture. For example, UU and SGI are religions but they dont see anything wrong with differences in sexual orientation. However, one person may be from India and another from down south Georgia, and because of their worldview and ubringing, that, inturn, influences how they see others.

I mean, in my faith, everyone is a Buddha. Everyone is by being a Bodhisattva of the Earth. Yet, in the Buddha's sutras, in "his culture", only men received the highest spiritual wisdom. Its the same in Christianity, only men seem to inherit the rights to another persons spiritual growth regardless the denomni. I assume in the Quran is the same? Belief in God isnt "depended" on thr Haijib one wears but its in the culture and practice to where it based on the reasons in the Quran. Many religions have that.

Anyway, its cultural and traditon. No religious text I read says that homosexuality (having GBLTQ sexual orientation) is wrong. They knew nothing about it. They saw sexual impurity based on lust and not the love of God and they were punished for that. Has nothing to donwith sexual orientation.

Nam.

thanks for this honest and value answsers
let's me ask you some personal question , if you don't mind :

do you ever make relation with man , or men , before you chooce to be with woman ?

I heard a speech about Homosexual , they said " it's happened to some persons , when they make adultery and taste all kinds of sex with opposite gender, so then they enough from opposite sex , so they reach the maximum , so they not intentionally start to try other gender " .

I mean, in my faith, everyone is a Buddha. Everyone is by being a Bodhisattva of the Earth. Yet, in the Buddha's sutras, in "his culture", only men received the highest spiritual wisdom. Its the same in Christianity, only men seem to inherit the rights to another persons spiritual growth regardless the denomni. I assume in the Quran is the same? Belief in God isnt "depended" on thr Haijib one wears but its in the culture and practice to where it based on the reasons in the Quran. Many religions have that.

i don't get your point about " only men received the highest spiritual wisdom .

for exemple ?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

thanks for this honest and value answsers
let's me ask you some personal question , if you don't mind :

do you ever make relation with man , or men , before you chooce to be with woman ?

I heard a speech about Homosexual , they said " it's happened to some persons , when they make adultery and taste all kinds of sex with opposite gender, so then they enough from opposite sex , so they reach the maximum , so they not intentionally start to try other gender "

i don't get your point about " only men received the highest spiritual wisdom .

for exemple ?

Wow. Ouch. I hear a lot of that too; and, it is a big misconception of a person's individual sexual orientation and identity. I have only met one woman with whom I wish I could have been with for lifetime who has not had anything tragic happen to her to "make her turn gay." She and I slipped through the stereotype because that's what it is. It also depends on where one lives to. For example, I live in a Christian town and homosexuality is akin to lust. While up north, homosexuality was not wrong, just different. (As if we are aliens or something). The intensity depends on where you are and how that person is raised in seeing people that differ than themselves.

'but no, you cannot change your sexual orientation because you choose to be with someone of the opposite or same gender. For example, I don't care for Oatmeal. My tastebuds physiologically cannot adapt to taste and I have the choice to eat it any time I want. Orientation has nothing to do with choice. We are just influenced by many factors that may make us choose what we naturally would not if circumstances where different.

On that note about choice, I have chosen to be with a man before. Same as Oatmeal, I can make any choice I want, that doesn't mean spiritually, physically, and mentally I will be connected to some of the choices I make. Unlike Oatmeal, where I can throw away the box, with people, I cannot do that. I choose not to hurt the feelings of men who may fall in love with me because I don't have that same attraction to them (inside and out). That's why I choose to be with a woman... but my choice has nothing to do with my sexual orientation as a lesbian and lesbian only.

 

[Godobeyer]

Wow. Ouch. I hear a lot of that too; and, it is a big misconception of a person's individual sexual orientation and identity. I have only met one woman with whom I wish I could have been with for lifetime who has not had anything tragic happen to her to "make her turn gay." She and I slipped through the stereotype because that's what it is. It also depends on where one lives to. For example, I live in a Christian town and homosexuality is akin to lust. While up north, homosexuality was not wrong, just different. (As if we are aliens or something). The intensity depends on where you are and how that person is raised in seeing people that differ than themselves.

thanks for this information too

'but no, you cannot change your sexual orientation because you choose to be with someone of the opposite or same gender. For example, I don't care for Oatmeal. My tastebuds physiologically cannot adapt to taste and I have the choice to eat it any time I want. Orientation has nothing to do with choice. We are just influenced by many factors that may make us choose what we naturally would not if circumstances where different.

On that note about choice, I have chosen to be with a man before. Same as Oatmeal, I can make any choice I want, that doesn't mean spiritually, physically, and mentally I will be connected to some of the choices I make. Unlike Oatmeal, where I can throw away the box, with people, I cannot do that. I choose not to hurt the feelings of men who may fall in love with me because I don't have that same attraction to them (inside and out). That's why I choose to be with a woman... but my choice has nothing to do with my sexual orientation as a lesbian and lesbian only.

you said "I do believe it is biological when it comes to physiological and mental feelings"
so it's about hormons ,not genetic?

you said " We are just influenced by many factors"
what is factors that you think influenced to you ?

 

[Wirey]

hello all

could hormons effect on genetics , or inverse ?

is the hormons had big rule in this issue (homosexual) ?

iF it's about genetic , so if gay birth baby from woman , or lesbien brith baby from man , so definitly their babies will be homosexual too ? (i mean generation)

someone tell me it's about orient from brain , so it's about hormons then ?

for your opinion , why most of religions of world forbid the homosexual , or don't agree with?

It's about convenience. If you meet a guy the same size as you, you double your wardrobe. Plus, no more bras drying on the towel rack. And you'll never have to worry about prolonged visits from Auntie Flow again. Of course, you have to get used to eating pizza and drinking beer all the time.

I wish I were gay.

 

[Godobeyer]

btw
now in West , if someone said "i am against homosexual, and homosexual is immoral issues " , is that cost a jail , or taxe , or what ?

 

[Wirey]

btw
now in West , if someone said "i am against homosexual, and homosexual is immoral issues " , is that cost a jail , or taxe , or what ?

It's a sign that you're a moron.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

thanks for this information too

you said "I do believe it is biological when it comes to physiological and mental feelings" so it's about hormons ,not genetic?

you said " We are just influenced by many factors"
what is factors that you think influenced to you ?

When I think of genetic, I think "is it hereditary? Can you catch it?" Type of thing. From that point of view, it is not genetic. I am not lesbian based on my mother's sexual orientation or genes etc.

Is it biological, if that's what you mean by genetic? Yes, all sexual orientation is biological. A lot of gay people see it as an "identity" of who they are not what they are made of because of how they identify socially with people who both have struggled and have positive experiences with people like themselves.

Our identity is influneced by (factors) how we are raised, our beliefs, where we were raised, our families, education, and so on. These don't make us gay, they shape how we see ourselves as gay (LBQATS) people. Americans love acronymns.

Make alittle more sense?

 

[suncowiam]

btw
now in West , if someone said "i am against homosexual, and homosexual is immoral issues " , is that cost a jail , or taxe , or what ?

Anyone can have beliefs in the west. It doesn't result with punishment.

It's how one acts on their beliefs and if those actions conflict with local, state or federal laws.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

It's about convenience. If you meet a guy the same size as you, you double your wardrobe. Plus, no more bras drying on the towel rack. And you'll never have to worry about prolonged visits from Auntie Flow again. Of course, you have to get used to eating pizza and drinking beer all the time.

I wish I were gay.

Haha. I don't know if that's better than extra cleaning of the bathroom. Replacing white towels that aren't yours. Finding out one size doesn't fit all while washing loads of clothes, which, in part, are only worn a couple times a month. Finding the right ring to someone who doesn't mind a surprise but not on your terms maybe be a problem. Then you have the, "I don't feel like it" symptom when batting your eyes fail to do the job.

I wish I were straight.

 

[SomeRandom]

I think rejecting wrong conduct is simply that; abstaining from wrong conduct. I would prefer someone showed me what the Creator's feelings are about some conduct I may find pleasurable but that displeases God, rather than tell me what I may want to hear but is false. I believe we all desire things that we should not because we are sinful and imperfect. (Romans 5:12) Rather than dwell on those wrong desires, I believe we should change our thinking to accept God's standards. (1 Peter 1:14-16) This applies not just to homosexual acts but to all types of immoral conduct, including fornication and adultery.

Okay so let's apply this to heterosexual couples. You brought up alcoholics before as something to avoid. Alright. Let's say a man who is a sex addict marries a woman with, oh I don't know, let's say Bi Polar of which one potential symptom is hyper sexuality. If addiction is terrible, do we help this man to overcome his sex addiction even though he is technically being sexually moral as he only has sex with his wife?

Now I question just how healthy celibacy is. Humans are after all sexual beings. They require social interaction to stay healthy. What you propose is sexual isolation for a very specific sexual attraction. But is that really healthy? God created us to have sex, that you cannot really escape, unless you're a Nun or Priest. But they chose their vocation, no one demanded it of them. Which is what you're doing with gay people. Essentially demanding that they become like Nuns or Priests even if they're not religious to begin with. You want them not to experience legitimate intimacy, love or sexual release (which is proven to be detrimental to one's health!)

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It seems to be a combination of biological and environmental factors. There is no "gay gene" and I don't believe that sexual orientation is inborn (but that's not the same as saying that it's a conscious choice or consciously changeable). Sexuality is a very complicated and fluid thing. I think that humans tend to be sexual opportunists, more or less, while having preferences.

 

[SomeRandom]

When I think of genetic, I think "is it hereditary? Can you catch it?" Type of thing. From that point of view, it is not genetic. I am not lesbian based on my mother's sexual orientation or genes etc.

Is it biological, if that's what you mean by genetic? Yes, all sexual orientation is biological. A lot of gay people see it as an "identity" of who they are not what they are made of because of how they identify socially with people who both have struggled and have positive experiences with people like themselves.

Our identity is influneced by (factors) how we are raised, our beliefs, where we were raised, our families, education, and so on. These don't make us gay, they shape how we see ourselves as gay (LBQATS) people. Americans love acronymns.

Make alittle more sense?

Well actually you can watch homosexuality in terms of hereditary factors. Having gay people born to straight parents doesn't automatically make it not genetic in that sense.
Epi genetics (which admittedly is something I don't know that much about) that can influence one to be homosexual can actually "skip" your parents but then be passed onto their offspring. So like a dormant type of thing. But again I'm no biologist so I leave that to the more learned members around here to fill in the blanks.