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Homosexual is about genetic or hormons, or what ?

Homosexual is about genetic or hormons ?


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rusra02

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Right, but committed, legally recognized homosexual relationships didn't exist at that point, so they likely weren't considered. The Bible only talks to promiscuous homosexual conduct. Not relationships. What about celibate homosexual relationships.
Right, but committed, legally recognized homosexual relationships didn't exist at that point, so they likely weren't considered. The Bible only talks to promiscuous homosexual conduct. Not relationships. What about celibate homosexual relationships.
I believe 1 Corinthians 6:9 clearly shows any homosexual conduct is wrong; "Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality,"
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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Please understand these are the true God's standards and requirements, not mine. And I believe since Jehovah created us, he knows best what is good for us. And being the loving God he is, he wants us to be happy. Unfortunately, we are living a life today that is far from what God purposes for us, IMO, and we desperately need direction from him to have the happiness that eludes so many. Since God's wisdom is obviously infinitely greater than mine, I choose to accept his direction in this matter. What others do is their decision.
So God wants us to be happy and the way to reach this happiness at least on earth is to deny yourself sexual intimacy which results in another level of bonding and limits stress and sexual frustration with your spouse if they are the same sex as you even if you only have one sexual partner for let's say practically your entire life? That seems unconscionable cruel to ask of anyone.
 

rusra02

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So God wants us to be happy and the way to reach this happiness at least on earth is to deny yourself sexual intimacy which results in another level of bonding and limits stress and sexual frustration with your spouse if they are the same sex as you even if you only have one sexual partner for let's say practically your entire life? That seems unconscionable cruel to ask of anyone.
Since God created us, I believe he knows better than I how what we do affects our happiness. Pleasure and happiness are not synonymous.
 

SomeRandom

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Since God created us, I believe he knows better than I how what we do affects our happiness. Pleasure and happiness are not synonymous.
Except that we know for a fact (as in this is Scientifically proven) that sexual release is synonymous with lower level of stress, decreased chance of some cancers and when facilitated with a significant other increases the love/bond which leads to a healthy relationship.
 

rusra02

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Except that we know for a fact (as in this is Scientifically proven) that sexual release is synonymous with lower level of stress, decreased chance of some cancers and when facilitated with a significant other increases the love/bond which leads to a healthy relationship.

I would not find that surprising, since sex is a gift from our loving Creator. However, God has also given direction on how this gift should be enjoyed. (Hebrews 13:4) Misuse of God's gift has resulted in much harm to millions, IMO, The true God has also provided wine for man's enjoyment, but misuse of this gift leads to disaster. Same with misusing the gift of sex. (Psalm 104:15, 1 Corinthians 6:9,10)
 

Pudding

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I would not find that surprising, since sex is a gift from our loving Creator. However, God has also given direction on how this gift should be enjoyed. (Hebrews 13:4) Misuse of God's gift has resulted in much harm to millions, IMO, The true God has also provided wine for man's enjoyment, but misuse of this gift leads to disaster. Same with misusing the gift of sex. (Psalm 104:15, 1 Corinthians 6:9,10)
Sex is a gift from loving Creator who is God A from religion A.
Sex is a gift from loving Creator who is God B from religion B.
Sex is a gift from loving Creator who is God C/D/E...etc from religion C/D/E...etc.

Which Creator from which religion really is the Creator?
Evidence that any of them is the Creator?
If you say only your religion's God is the Creator, what is your evidence which proves that only your religion's God is the Creator?
What is your evidence which proves that any other religion's God is not the Creator?
 
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Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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The Bible contains God's standards, IMO.

OK, so live by them but don't push them in my face and preach them to me.

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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
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Scientists have pretty much come out and said that sexual orientation is most likely down to genetic factors.
that's maybe about female and male , that's known

I said about homosexual ,what your source?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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that's maybe about female and male , that's known

I said about homosexual ,what your source?
Well I'm on my phone right now so I'll have to come back to this, since I'm unable to post sources using my phone. But it will have to be after work which is in like 10 hours time! Gah!!!!! So I ask for some patience, if you please. But most Biologists would be my source.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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I would not find that surprising, since sex is a gift from our loving Creator. However, God has also given direction on how this gift should be enjoyed. (Hebrews 13:4) Misuse of God's gift has resulted in much harm to millions, IMO, The true God has also provided wine for man's enjoyment, but misuse of this gift leads to disaster. Same with misusing the gift of sex. (Psalm 104:15, 1 Corinthians 6:9,10)
So God gives us a gift then tells us explicitly how we are to use it? That's not giving a gift. That's just being a control freak.
 

rusra02

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Sex is a gift from loving Creator who is God A from religion A.
Sex is a gift from loving Creator who is God B from religion B.
Sex is a gift from loving Creator who is God C/D/E...etc from religion C/D/E...etc.

Which Creator from which religion really is the Creator?
Evidence that any of them is the Creator?
If you say only your religion's God is the Creator, what is your evidence which proves that only your religion's God is the Creator?
What is your evidence which proves that any other religion's God is not the Creator?

Actually, I think that is a good question. Each person has to examine the evidence for themselves. Which God has unerringly foretold future events, hundreds or thousands of years in advance? Which God has acted in human history over and over, and communicated with mankind by providing a written record so people in every nation can come to know him? Which God explains where we come from, why we are here, we we suffer, and what hope for the future we have? There is but one true Creator, and I am convinced his name is Jehovah. The gods worshipped throughout history are mostly found today in museums or packed away in crates.
 

rusra02

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Premium Member
I would suggest that if other person's beliefs and religious practices offend you, a forum where such ideas are discussed may not be the best place for you. I am sorry that what I believe is the truth offends you, but I do not apologize for sharing it.
 
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