Homosexuality and marriage (again)

[Autodidact]

Let's start off with Newt, I don't care for him at all...no way shape or form. There's hypocritical Christians, but you can't use unrepentant sinners in the same sentense with that for the simple reason that a Christian, a 'true Christian,' is saved by the Blood, there in lies the difference. Of course Newt is sinning and I doubt it very, very much if he's a Saved man. It's very hard to explain all this over email, you really have to be face to face talking. I can understand your thoughts though.

So what percentage of people who call themselves Christians would you say really are? And how do you tell?

 

[England my lionheart]

Assuming that's what it's talking about. So, as I was saying, it's not forbidden. Yet hypocritical Christians, including unrepentant sinners like Newt Gignrich, a known fornicator, condemn it as a sin. Huh.

I think its obvious that is refering to lesbianism it would certainly make sense besides it should'nt worry you being an athiest or does it?

 

[Nanda]

I think its obvious that is refering to lesbianism it would certainly make sense besides it should'nt worry you being an athiest or does it?

It worries atheists because Christians use this as a basis to oppress the homosexual community and deny them of their basic human rights.

 

[England my lionheart]

It worries atheists because Christians use this as a basis to oppress the homosexual community and deny them of their basic human rights.

How do human rights come into it,if you are a christian and read the bible it is quite clear the homosexual act is forbidden not homosexuals so it follows that if two gays want to marry in church does the Bible have to be changed to accomodate them.

 

[McBell]

How do human rights come into it,if you are a christian and read the bible it is quite clear the homosexual act is forbidden not homosexuals so it follows that if two gays want to marry in church does the Bible have to be changed to accomodate them.

Nice straw man.
Homosexuals want to get married.
Why do you feel the need to change it to "married in a church"?

 

[England my lionheart]

Nice straw man.
Homosexuals want to get married.
Why do you feel the need to change it to "married in a church"?

Because some do,i see no problem with a civil marriage.

 

[Aasimar]

Because some do,i see no problem with a civil marriage.

Will said civil marriage have all the government provided perks that a religious one has?

 

[Mike182]

Will said civil marriage have all the government provided perks that a religious one has?

i don't see why it shouldn't.

 

[England my lionheart]

Will said civil marriage have all the government provided perks that a religious one has?

I think a government has to honour a legal contract which is what a marriage is so yes they should.

 

[Aasimar]

I think a government has to honour a legal contract which is what a marriage is so yes they should.

I'd be good with that.

 

[England my lionheart]

oh no! we've all agreed on something

 

[Aasimar]

oh no! we've all agreed on something

It happens lol. Don't get used to it!

 

[England my lionheart]

LOL ok

 

[MoonWater]

But as has been said before, what about those churches that DO want to marry homosexuals?

 

[astarath]

But as has been said before, what about those churches that DO want to marry homosexuals?

Each church as a body needs to determine through prayer and analysis of the scriptures where they stand on the issue.

 

[Storm]

And so they have.

 

[Rowenn]

If you want to be a christian/muslim etc and get married then you do need to be straight...

And that's why there are Gay christian communties throughout the western world? You are aware that gay christians exist, correct?

 

[Autodidact]

I think its obvious that is refering to lesbianism it would certainly make sense besides it should'nt worry you being an athiest or does it?

Of course not. What worries is me is what some Christians believe and particularly when they act on those beliefs. No, it's not obvious. It clearly refers to women who are condemned to commit sex acts which are not natural to them. If they are heterosexual, that could include homosexual acts. On the other hand, for me, heterosexual acts would be quite unnatural.

In any case, the key point, which I have now made so many times that I should just be able to abbreviate it, is that Lesbianism Is Not Prohibited. (L.I.N.P)

 

[Autodidact]

How do human rights come into it,if you are a christian and read the bible it is quite clear the homosexual act is forbidden not homosexuals so it follows that if two gays want to marry in church does the Bible have to be changed to accomodate them.

No, it is not, as we've shown in this thread. I am not interested in being married in a church. Unfortunately, I am not allowed to get married out of a church, because of the influence of Christians in my country. This is all too obvious to have to say, and I can never tell whether people who ask these questions are deliberately ignorant, or have typed before thinking.

 

[Autodidact]

Because some do,i see no problem with a civil marriage.

Cool. Too bad we're not allowed to do it.