Homosexuality and religious.

[mikkel_the_dane]

I agree it can be a severe test for a homosexual wanting to be a Baha’i.

Yeah, and some other religions don't consider it a test. Now include that for all of humanity and reconcile that.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Try believing God loves homosexuals and don't consider them wrong.

I think the answer lay in that one follow God or one follow the body and lust. But can't follow both.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

It is supposed to be a hard test

Or none at all.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I think the answer lay in that one follow God or one follow the body and lust. But can't follow both.

But the body and lust is God to me, if God exists.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Or none at all.

As I replied in the other answer.
The test is:follow God or follow body and lust. Can't do both.

 

[Spirit of Light]

But the body and lust is God to me, if God exists.

Can you elaborate on that a bit, its a unfamiliar thought for me.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

As I replied in the other answer.
The test is:follow God or follow body and lust. Can't do both.

Here we disagree. Can we agree on that?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Here we disagree. Can we agree on that?

Yes it is clear that we see this differently

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Can you elaborate on that a bit, its a unfamiliar thought for me.

It is Greek philosophy. Good, middle road, bad. There is a third way between no lust and all lust.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Because of your behaviour towards active homosexuals in your community. That is where it ends.

The position on how homosexuals are to be treated is very clear.

To regard homosexuals with prejudice and disdain would be entirely against the spirit of Bahá'í Teachings. The doors are open for all of humanity to enter the Cause of God, irrespective of their present circumstances; this invitation applies to homosexuals as well as to any others who are engaged in practices contrary to the Bahá'í Teachings.

To regard a person who has a homosexual orientation with prejudice or disdain is entirely against the spirit of the Faith. And where occasion demands, it would be appropriate to speak out or act against unjust or oppressive measures directed towards homosexuals. (House of Justice)

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

The position on how homosexuals are to be treated is very clear.

To regard homosexuals with prejudice and disdain would be entirely against the spirit of Bahá'í Teachings. The doors are open for all of humanity to enter the Cause of God, irrespective of their present circumstances; this invitation applies to homosexuals as well as to any others who are engaged in practices contrary to the Bahá'í Teachings.

To regard a person who has a homosexual orientation with prejudice or disdain is entirely against the spirit of the Faith. And where occasion demands, it would be appropriate to speak out or act against unjust or oppressive measures directed towards homosexuals. (House of Justice)

Yeah, but I can't be a full member and an active homosexual.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Try believing God loves homosexuals and don't consider them wrong.

Of course God loves homosexuals. God loves all humanity. Loving someone doesn’t mean you have to agree with everything.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Yeah, but I can't be a full member and an active homosexual.

When I first joined I didn’t believe in God. But after a couple of years when I finally really did believe I asked to join again. Lol! But they said my initial joining was like a seed being planted so it didn’t matter.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Of course God loves homosexuals. God loves all humanity. Loving someone doesn’t mean you have to agree with everything.

Correct, but we still differ on homosexuals and humanity. I believe God agrees with homoseuals. And you can believe as you like as you, but that changes when you are interacting with other humans.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

When I first joined I didn’t believe in God. But after a couple of years when I finally really did believe I asked to join again. Lol! But they said my initial joining was like a seed being planted so it didn’t matter.

Are you a LGBT+?

 

[Sheldon]

Different religious texts use various texts. The actual word homosexuality was first used not universally in 1868 so usually in scripture you will find the ‘act’ described but not the word homosexuality.

150 years ago, the word ‘homosexual’ was coined in a secret correspondence

Baha’u’llah described it in His Most Holy Book thus.

“We shrink, for very shame, from treating of the subject of boys. Fear ye the Merciful, O peoples of the world! Commit not that which is forbidden you in Our Holy Tablet, and be not of those who rove distractedly in the wilderness of their desires.”

The Kitab-i-Aqdas
Bahá’u’lláh

Describing beging gay as something to be ashamed of, is quite obviously homophobic.

 

[Sheldon]

Much of humanity’s slow progress i believe has been due to not following the divine laws. Had we done so our energies would have been directed towards improving the quality of life instead of conquering others and fighting wars.

Well you're entitled to an opinion, but it seem to be just sweeping unevidenced claim.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Correct, but we still differ on homosexuals and humanity. I believe God agrees with homoseuals. And you can believe as you like as you, but that changes when you are interacting with other humans.

I welcome all in my home. All are people like myself. A homosexual is an equal fellow human being. That is my belief.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I welcome all in my home. All are people like myself. A homosexual is an equal fellow human being. That is my belief.

Can an active homoseual be a full active member of your group?

 

[loverofhumanity]

Are you a LGBT+?

Im a male married to a Baha’i woman for 43 years. But all are welcome in my home. All are considered equals.