Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
Whoops! I thought you were referring to American like the lawfulness of gay marriage. We don't lobby against that.
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Homosexuality and religious.
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Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
Like what?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
How harm can happen if you are wrong according to your local culture's beliefs.
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
No, it means that God created us all because he loves us, and God is merciful, and homosexual acts are just one aspect of our behavior.
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
That still doesn't answer my question.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
We all have our personal opinions.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Ask @Dawnofhope to repost the study. I don't have the time right now to do the right google search. Will get back to you.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
So if I harm you, that is not a fact, if it is my opinion, that I didn't harm you?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
It's not obvious that men and women have sex and produce children?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
No, it is not obvious that it is from God.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I did not say that. You feel what you feel.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I did not say it is obvious that it is from God.
I said it is obvious that men and women have sex and produce children.
You don't have to believe in God to know that, it is a scientific fact.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yes, and it is obvious that they don't need to have sex to produce children.
That’s a good question. Baha’u’llah clearly condemns the acts and the Baha’i Writings specifically stress to look at the good qualities in all and not to fault find. So we are forbidden to condemn others and look at our own faults and failings.
I know Baha’is who are homosexual and that does not come into our friendship. That is a personal matter between them and God. I only try to apply the laws to my life not others.
If you read this below, we stand to be cursed by God if we go around finding fault with homosexuals. Baha’u’llah has condemned the act as a Manifestation of God but we have no right to do the same as we are not Prophets. We must treat all with kindness and compassion.
“Breathe not the sins of
others so long as thou art thyself a sinner. Shouldst
thou transgress this command, accursed wouldst thou be, and to this I bear witness.”
The Hidden Words
Bahá'u'lláh
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Now I have heard everything.
I don't know what conversion therapy looks like and can't imagine it would be helpful.
Not exactly. Those systems have been tried and failed. Try - The World Order of Baha’u’llah or the Kingdom of God on Earth or a World Spiritual Civilisation. This new system based on justice, human rights and spiritual values has not yet been attempted. It works though because we use this system and are the only united world community in existence that is united.
It is what it is.
Not at all. I’ll try and explain it another way. God, the Judge of all mankind has condemned certain behaviours among them homosexuality but told His followers to treat them with kindness and dignity as they are equal fellow human beings and that’s that.
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KWED
Scratching head, scratching knee
Yes, we get that you don't understand how analogy works.
So just to be clear, you don't think that humans have an innate aversion to torturing babies. It's just a matter of individual opinion?
Yikes!