Homosexuality

[painted wolf]

Unnatural = anything I don't agree with or like.

wa:do

 

[Autodidact]

A: "Homosexuality is immoral because it's unnatural."
B: "But it's perfectly natural; most animals do it."
A: "But morality should not be based on nature."

See a problem here?

 

[Apollonius]

I take that as a yes, you belong to the most dangerous and predatory sexual group on the planet? Me too. See, we have so much in common.

Are you saying all Germans should be categorized as being Nazi's?

 

[Apollonius]

That's not the point, the point of that is that it's natural.

The nature of the blade is to cut, however, this should not be taken to justify the slitting of someones throat.

It's also moral, but not because animals do it, but for other reasons.

Moral ? One must ask, by whose standards?

 

[FlyingTeaPot]

The nature of the blade is to cut, however, this should not be taken to justify the slitting of someones throat.

The blade has no nature. The person who is holding the blade has a nature and can use the blade for anything they might want. You are simply creating straw man arguments when faced with simple fact.

 

[FlyingTeaPot]

Moral ? One must ask, by whose standards?

It is moral by the natural standard. You, I suspect, have different standards.

 

[painted wolf]

Moral ? One must ask, by whose standards?

According to my religion, God has no problem with it... indeed people born GBLT have special roles to play in the world.

wa:do

 

[Kerr]

The nature of the blade is to cut, however, this should not be taken to justify the slitting of someones throat.

Exactly. If something is natural or not does not tell if it is moral or not. Other things come to play. So one cannot say that homosexuality is wrong because it is unnatural.

Moral ? One must ask, by whose standards?

Appearently not by yours, but there are many who disagree with you.

 

[Autodidact]

Are you saying all Germans should be categorized as being Nazi's?

Are you saying all gay people should be branded AIDS carriers, liars, unnatural and lustful?

 

[Autodidact]

The nature of the blade is to cut, however, this should not be taken to justify the slitting of someones throat.

Moral ? One must ask, by whose standards?

Mine, which I'm happy to debate. Why would love that harms none be other than moral? Oh, also, apparently, most of the people in this thread.

I'm guessing not yours, but as we've shown, you belong to a group of promiscuous sexual predators, so you may have difficulty advocating your so-called morality here.

 

[Apollonius]

The blade has no nature. The person who is holding the blade has a nature and can use the blade for anything they might want.

Really? .. in much the same way as the homosexual chooses the manner in which he wishes to sexually express himself?

 

[Apollonius]

According to my religion, God has no problem with it...

wa:do

The key word here is 'my'. Truly your religion is not mine and your God is foreign to me.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Really? .. in much the same way as the homosexual chooses the manner in which he wishes to sexually express himself?

How does a homosexual choose in which way we sexually express ourself? We're not sexually attracted to women. That makes no sense.

 

[Autodidact]

The key word here is 'my'. Truly your religion is not mine and your God is foreign to me.

Well, if your position exemplifies your religion, I'll make sure your God stays foreign to me as well.

Why on earth do you think we'd be interested in your particular religious beliefs? This thread is not about you, Apollonius, fascinating though the subject may be.

 

[Autodidact]

Really? .. in much the same way as the homosexual chooses the manner in which he wishes to sexually express himself?

Doesn't everyone?

 

[Apollonius]

Are you saying all gay people should be branded AIDS carriers, liars, unnatural and lustful?

Such people choose to live inauthentic lives. At the end of the day it's their lives and they can live them as they wish, .. but they should not expect everyone to be supportive of the decisions they choose to make.

 

[tumbleweed41]

The blade has no nature. The person who is holding the blade has a nature and can use the blade for anything they might want. You are simply creating straw man arguments when faced with simple fact.

Really? .. in much the same way as the homosexual chooses the manner in which he wishes to sexually express himself?

A blade is not representative of human nature.

Nor is your personal view of sexual morality representative of nature.

 

[FlyingTeaPot]

Really? .. in much the same way as the homosexual chooses the manner in which he wishes to sexually express himself?

Yes, exactly. Let us not beat around the bush with these straw men.
In this analogy the blade is the penis. You are equating slitting someone's throat using a blade with inserting a penis in another man's genitals. That is your opinion. I equate homosexuality with cutting an apple instead of an onion. Both are a natural use of the blade and moral.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Such people choose to live inauthentic lives. At the end of the day it's their lives and they can live them as they wish, .. but they should not expect everyone to be supportive of the decisions they choose to make.

There is a big difference between being supportive and allowing free people to live the life nature has chosen for them.

 

[FlyingTeaPot]

Appollonius, I have a question for you. Do you think homosexuality should be illegal and a punishable offense?