Baha"is come from every culture, race, nationality, tradition, religion, custom, tribe, language and class on earth. A true cross section of humanity
Over 2100 Indigenous tribes, races, and ethnic groups are represented in around 200 countries.
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How are these Great Beings explained?
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Baha"is come from every culture, race, nationality, tradition, religion, custom, tribe, language and class on earth. A true cross section of humanity
Over 2100 Indigenous tribes, races, and ethnic groups are represented in around 200 countries.
Who is the driver/owner of the ark? What about the people who don't want to go on the ark?
I just don't see any analogy that works for this. Many arks, many faiths, mutual respect.
And all Bahai. Not a single Christian. Not a single Hindu. Not a single Pagan. Not a single Buddhist. Every single one a card carrying Bahai, lol.
Of course. I said it's all up to the people for all time to choose to accept or reject Baha'u'llah.
They have so far rejected us for 170 years so its clear they are perfectly free to do that and we accept and respect that fully.
InvestigateTruth
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If it was possible to have 50000 peaceful religions, and that was the way, then why after so many thousands of years, they are still in conflicts? Even today, there is a lot of religious fanaticism, among Muslims, Christians and etc, not to mention, the different sects of religions are in war and conflict.
But, if we have one united Faith, whose members are united with each other, and work together in harmony to build a better world, do you not think that is better?
Also, the fact is, the Truth is One, so, even though, people have their right to have any belief they want, even a false one, still, would it not make sense that, if all people discover that one single Truth, and thus be united in their vision, rather than having conflicts? How would it be in a perfect world?
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InvestigateTruth
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In my belief, if all people investigate without bias, they would enter an Ark of unity driven by One Truth.
I still believe in Christ and the Bible. I never gave up my belief in Christ or the Gospels.
The Baha'i Administrative Order is gradually unfolding and evolving. In time, when there is a majority Baha'i population there would be a Baha'i State which would be formed with the consent of the people and all would have a vote.
Unveiled Artist
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Lololololol
Im having a laugh attack trying to simplify these questions.
Im having a laugh attack trying to simplify these questions.
Yes that is your belief. My belief is that the truth that your prophet described is different than the truth that other sages, including Hindu sages, have described. But I'm fine with having different 'truths'. Its human nature to be different.
Go to Catholic mass then. Explain to the good Father that you are a Bahai. See if he agrees. See if he will give you the sacraments.
You see, at some point there is a definition of religion. The people of that religion get to decide. I get to vote in Canada. You get to vote in Australia. Do you honestly think you can come to Canada and cast your vote?
10 million ... only 3.5 billion to go. Let's see. 10 million after 170 years. To get to a billion, at this rate it will take only 17 000 years.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
This is not accept diversity.
Can world peace happen with fifty thousand peaceful religions or with one peaceful dominate religion?
I didnt mention people. I didnt say which religion. Black and white.
What does your post have to do with my question?
Can we have fifty thousand peaceful non dominate religions or do you prefer one peace dominate religion?
Some of the 'peaceful' religions figure if they just kill everyone else off, there will only be them left. But unfortunately that won't work either because they forget one thing ... the instinctive strata of mind.
It doesn't matter, either way peace is peace and to be accepted.
Which has nothing to do with the Baha'is, who do not "kill everyone else".
Please remember the bounds of moderation and relevance when posting
Peace and prosperity is my wish however it can be established.
We must be reading each other's minds. I just posted almost identical to you. Lol
siti
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Baha'u'llah as a youth
"...by the time He was fourteen, he became known for His learning. He would converse on any subject and solve any problem presented to him. In large gatherings he would explain intricate religious questions..."
Clearly, according to Baha'i interpretations at least, Baha'u'llah had acquired detailed knowledge of religion by the age of 14. He was also able to comment on details of the Torah and the Christian scriptures as well as the Qur'an in his writings. He also had a reasonable knowledge of Hinduism as is evident from his dialogue with Manakji Limji Hataria which are recounted by Baha'u'llah in a letter to Mirza Abu'l-Fadl.
See here for more details on that:
Baha'u'llah on Hinduism and Zoroastrianism: The Tablet to Mirza Abu'l-Fadl Concerning the Questions of Manakji Limji Hataria
Here are a few relevant excerpts:
"It has not been widely recognized, however, that Baha'u'llah himself had some knowledge of Hinduism...
Not only was Baha'u'llah familiar with Hinduism, but he clearly expected that his nineteenth-century, literate, Persian-speaking audience would be, as well...
A substantial literature on Hinduism existed in Arabic and Persian...
...many Hindus also wrote in or translated into Persian, very large numbers of such manuscripts circulated among the literate classes, and many of these books demonstrably reached Iran...
Persian descriptions of Hinduism, though varying in quality, were also quite numerous...
Baha'u'llah's wording makes it clear that he was familiar with the Yoga Vasistha...
Major points of interest are Baha'u'llah's attitudes to Zoroastrianism and Hinduism. He was clearly
well-versed in the former..."
Will that do for now?
EDIT: I does seem that Baha'u'llah made very little, if any, commentary on Buddha or Buddhism. It was Abdu'l Baha who elevated Buddha to the rank of Manifestation. But it does seem pretty clear that both Baha'u'llah and Abdu'l Baha were very well-read in religious matters - and especially (and unsurprisingly) those that were important in 19th century Persia - including Hinduism and Zoroastrianism. So the Baha'i claim (repeated yet again) that their knowledge of religion was not gained from religious education, certainly seems to me to be rather questionable.
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CG Didymus
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I'd like to know when you say that Zoroaster, Buddha, King David, and Isaiah lived? Because if a Psalm of David or a prophecy of Isaiah mentions a coming of the next manifestation, it might have to include Zoroaster and Buddha. If the dates don't work then the Psalm or prophecy would have to include Jesus, Muhammad, the Bab and Baha'u'llah. So not only a second coming, but many comings.