How are these Great Beings explained?

[Unveiled Artist]

Very slowly and gradually. Little by little day by day.

How do you do so, expand.

Bahaullah cant be involved. It has to be a Commonn foundation of Greater peace.

 

[loverofhumanity]

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I have many times and studied as a christian (with experience and knowledge). Jesus (John 10:16) is talking about the jews and gentiles and he saves only those who come to him to know the father. Christianity is not a univeralist religion.

To be saved and be a brother and sister in christ you cannot be bahai.

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Again.

Are you interested in learning the Facts of other religions that conflict with yours?

Are you interested in learning the facts from a christian, hindu, muslim, buddhist as knowledge that is true and fact and not their perspective or matter of opinion?

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As you noticed, I defended Catholicism, Buddhist, and Hindu. I no longer practice Catholicism and Buddhism (although I am the former by sacrament and latter by belief) and I am not a Hindu in any sense of the word,

But I can defend them (with their permission) because I have interest in knowing what THEY believe, how they interpret their own scripture, how they see their scripture, and purpose of practice. I have interest in not having their beliefs misinterpreted because

Catholicism has been belittled by you, non christians, and many protestants alike. I dont like it.

Buddhism has been basterdized by America and made new agish and I see this then I hear you say The Buddha supports god, I faint.

Then a Hindu is literally telling you (and bahais) you are flat out wrong and you do not take his and their voice into consideration as FACT not matter of perspective and opinion and it is Their faith not yours.

We know your beliefs. I have considered your beliefs as fact. I admit point blank it does not make sense and the more I read it it also makes me feel ill. I stopped practicing catholicism one of many reasons is because I dont want to be a part of human sacrifice. CA annoys as well.

If youre not interested in others facts that conflict with your own, you can quote bahai words all day and what you feel scripture of these selective religions believe of you, but without listening to practitioners (not ex-practitioners bahais), it wont go anywhere.

You need to show interest in other peoples facts or your belief is a matter of opinion until you understand why you are factually wrong regardless of what you believe is right.

Read this in full. Take your time.

I'm always open to learning about other religions. I think the other religions are beautiful and have so many wonderful teachings.

Of course I am not saved according to the Christians. I can live with that.

Yes I am always interested in learning from others and often do. Any Hindu, Christian, Muslim or Buddhist is most welcome to teach me what they believe and I'm happy to listen.

I never mean to offend anyone so if I have then I'm sorry.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I'm always open to learning about other religions. I think the other religions are beautiful and have so many wonderful teachings.

Of course I am not saved according to the Christians. I can live with that.

Yes I am always interested in learning from others and often do. Any Hindu, Christian, Muslim or Buddhist is most welcome to teach me what they believe and I'm happy to listen.

I never mean to offend anyone so if I have then I'm sorry.

Not learn from, considering their beliefs as facts and not a matter of perspective.

Learning that Buddhist and the suttras dont support god is different from indirectly saying a buddhist is wrong (for now), his suttras do support god, and his religion will be one with others.

If you do not consider their beliefs as facts, how would you understand any religion from the practitioners and scriptural perspective if you keep interpreting it through your beliefs not theirs?

 

[1AOA1]

Not learn from, considering their beliefs

It's not theirs directly but belongs to that which they believe in, and by that extension, belongs to them.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Not learn from, considering their beliefs as facts and not a matter of perspective.

Learning that Buddhist and the suttras dont support god is different from indirectly saying a buddhist is wrong (for now), his suttras do support god, and his religion will be one with others.

If you do not consider their beliefs as facts, how would you understand any religion from the practitioners and scriptural perspective if you keep interpreting it through your beliefs not theirs?

Buddhists believe that. That's their right.

I've read many Buddhist sutras and love them and consider them to be truth. Is there any particular suttra you are referring to?

 

[Vinayaka]

I think we can all go through different stages of our faith, often more to do with personal maturity than our actual faith.

That parallels my thoughts on marriage. It's not just who you marry but also when you marry.

 

[Vinayaka]

News about priests and Mullas worldwide has only reinforced that they are in decline.

'Priests' in Hinduism fulfill an entirely different purpose ... yet another paradigm difference, using the same English word.

 

[Vinayaka]

Diversity will never be lost. If you really want to see diversity then go to a large Baha'i celebration with a pot luck dinner!

Culturally, perhaps, especially in North America where practically any gathering in an urban area will have huge diversity. Even things like a baseball game. Religiously, obviously not.

 

[Vinayaka]

Christ came for all humanity so everyone has had the chance to hear if it.

Although I'm not completely sure, I lean to him not existing. Seems too far fetched. He has absolutely no impact on my life. I'm a Hindu's Hindu. You're free to think otherwise of course.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

It's not theirs directly but belongs to that which they believe in, and by that extension, belongs to them.

Okay.... you got the point of the full post?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Buddhists believe that. That's their right.

I've read many Buddhist sutras and love them and consider them to be truth. Is there any particular suttra you are referring to?

Have you considered the suttras true/fact based on buddhist interpretation and not your own as a bahais?

 

[Vinayaka]

There is that too.

I'm looking at Christianity's capacity to positively affect the spiritual, moral, and intellectual lives of millions of people over nearly two thousand years.

Just to add: One of the things (Catholics mainly) they could do today is to abolish their stance on birth control. When we were in Dominican Republic, we encountered families of 9, 10, or more commonly, impoverished, and a Mother's health at risk. Tough to observe, especially knowing how one person could easily alleviate a ton of suffering. Outside of places where the people aren't so faithful, they just ignore that teaching. That's just one example. The consequential harm in India to morale, etc. has been atrocious.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Have you considered the suttras true/fact based on buddhist interpretation and not your own as a bahais?

Let's look at them together then.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Although I'm not completely sure, I lean to him not existing. Seems too far fetched. He has absolutely no impact on my life. I'm a Hindu's Hindu. You're free to think otherwise of course.

I very much respect ahimsa of the Hindus. I've always wondered why we have a Lotus Temple in India but so far no Baha'i Temple in England. From my understanding, the Hindus are one of the most tolerant people in the world.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Culturally, perhaps, especially in North America where practically any gathering in an urban area will have huge diversity. Even things like a baseball game. Religiously, obviously not.

I follow the New England Patriots. I was watching the game live here in Australia and they were down 28-0 so I turned my tv off. My sister happened to phone me a half hour later and said she was watching the NFL and I thought that odd because she never watches football. Then she said it was 28 all and I really enjoyed the rest of the game.

My baseball team are the Yankees.

 

[loverofhumanity]

'Priests' in Hinduism fulfill an entirely different purpose ... yet another paradigm difference, using the same English word.

Isn't their main role towards preside over ceremonies? I've been to India twice and visited some Hindu Temples. The first visit I was there for 3 months but got terribly ill I think with food poisoning.

 

[Vinayaka]

My baseball team are the Yankees.

That's funny. I've always 'hated' the Yankees. I'm an 'underdog' sports fan, and don't like it when the press goes gaga over one team. As a kid, my cousin liked the Yankees, but he had no loyalty. (1960s)All he did was pick the favorite, and back then it was usually the darn Yankees. Then later, when they just tried to buy the best team, my disdain increased.

I like Washington now, because of the Expos, and as a kid I liked the Giants because of Juan Marichal, whom I imitated in style. (Sorry, I probably went over your head with all that.)

 

[Vinayaka]

Isn't their main role towards preside over ceremonies? I've been to India twice and visited some Hindu Temples. The first visit I was there for 3 months but got terribly ill I think with food poisoning.

Water borne illness is part of going to India. I got sick both times as well. A bit easier these days though. Yes, the priest role is traditionally ceremonial, although is some branches there are lecturing pandits, and the role is expanded.

 

[loverofhumanity]

That's funny. I've always 'hated' the Yankees. I'm an 'underdog' sports fan, and don't like it when the press goes gaga over one team. As a kid, my cousin liked the Yankees, but he had no loyalty. (1960s)All he did was pick the favorite, and back then it was usually the darn Yankees. Then later, when they just tried to buy the best team, my disdain increased.

I like Washington now, because of the Expos, and as a kid I liked the Giants because of Juan Marichal, whom I imitated in style. (Sorry, I probably went over your head with all that.)

I follow the Sydney Roosters in Rugby League here.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Water borne illness is part of going to India. I got sick both times as well. A bit easier these days though. Yes, the priest role is traditionally ceremonial, although is some branches there are lecturing pandits, and the role is expanded.

I stayed in a village and got bitten by a mosquito and became delirious and then these people started gathering around me and putting garlic around my neck and performing some sort of ritual.

I panicked and would you believe it I asked for a bicycle so I could peddle to the nearest hospital. Thing is I've never ridden a bicycle before!!