How Bad Will It Get?

[BrokenBread]

What I think is going to happen: Tariffs will increase prices for the consumer on all things that come from overseas

Our consumer prices have already been increased.
Foreign & domestic by the way.
I confirmed this fact once again today when I went shopping.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well we know the result of that. Women are now going to be stoned.

As bad as that is, it's not USA's job to take
over a country to make life fair there.
It costs taxpayer money & soldier lives.

Countless equipment just handed right over to the Terrorist regime called the Taliban.

Not much loss there.
Hi tech things won't be useful to them because
they've no maintenance resources. They quickly
become useless. The cost of bringing them back
& keeping them serviceable would be high too.

How do you like Biden's policies?

Many of them suck, eg, civil forfeiture.
Note that Trump retained that one when
he was in office, & could've rectified it.

Think the war has really ended with them?

The trillion dollar phase has ended.

Would you really want that war & occupation
to have continued until Afghanistan had a
stable government capable of keeping the
Taliban at bay? For how many years?
Or decades?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Instead of looking at specific "what will happen" or "what will he do" scenarios, try thinking about the outcome of this election at the 30,000 foot level. If you do that, you will have to ready yourself for profound and unpredictable change.

There's going to be profound political change in the United States; profound political change all around the world. I say this as a Canadian: our bilateral relationship, which is so incredibly powerful and important to us here in Canada, economically and culturally, it's about to shift in dramatic ways. And that's going to happen around the world.

People think, "Well he was President before, so we kind of know what we're going to get." Check that at the door!

He's going to almost certainly control both houses of Congress. He clearly has his thumb on the Supreme Court, and he is now returning to the White House, triumphant and emboldened -- and still the possessor of a colossal ego and need for attention. This is a man who's going to move forward -- he will listen to no one, he will be checked by no influence.

How do you think the rest of the world is going to have to respond to that?

 

[Audie]

So far you haven’t responded to my questions about the facts.
Raising the ante, I‘ve Already vetted you (tRump’s) claims, and found them to be the standard package of self promoting lies he has always lived by.

Defeating ISIS

Abstract This chapter shows that, despite Trump's claims to the contrary, he did not entirely defeat Islamic State, and it was not him or -- rather -- him alone who had achieved the military successes against the group. The campaign consisted of three distinct phases. After some hesitation, Obama made defeating Islamic State a priority, created a plan and structure, and executed a significant part of the military campaign. Trump's "generals" continued implementing this strategy, albeit with the new "rules of engagement" that involved greater risks in return for faster, more decisive operations. Trump's personal involvement was limited to the last phase, in which he declared victory over Islamic State and announced a pull-out of American forces from Syria. In doing so, he contradicted his own administration's policy, alienated allies, strengthened America's adversaries, and emboldened the nearly defeated Islamic State.

As for the Afghanistan withdrawal and timeline set up by tRump, both POTUSs are to blame, as you know. With tRump failing to communicate with the Taliban and the incoming administration, yet leaving the withdrawal date as set (like a time-bomb), while Biden’s military staff executed the withdrawal poorly.
Of course we were loosing troops weekly by keeping them in country. The prompt withdrawal, saved the lives of many more of our soldiers than would have occurred had they stayed.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/30/politics/state-deparment-afghanistan-withdrawal-report/index.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...ghanistan-withdrawal-blames-trump-2023-04-06/

I’m not “pushing political bias”. I am simply presenting my disappointment and sadness at how easily the American public has been duped by this dangerous and traitorous Conman. Your “counter arguments” do stand in nicely as a case in point.. For which I thank you.

So; do try to own up for tRump’s false claims, and answer my original questions of you.
If you believe that mine are also wanting, then answer them and cite your evidence to support your argument. Simple….if they’re based in reality.


He has withdrawn our forces from the Middle East. No other military actions have been taken. ?”Big stick”?

There is zero evidence to support your ad hominem attacks, and abundant evidence to the contrary.
As for supporting the Ukrainian fight against the warlord known as Putin…. Of course. What else would you reccomend?

The Republicans handed him both elections. Built primarily on an apologetic right-wing-biased media, and tRump’s own rankings for division, hatred, fear, and threats of violence.
How you , @Kenny , and others see reality differently is both puzzling and very disturbing.

Trump made the border less secure while wasting billions of dollars, and time.
Inflation and the US economy, as usual, were handed to a Dem POTUS as the markets burned to ash, and that Dem saved us all. Any other outlook is impatient and short-sighted. Of course tRump will claim responsibility for Biden’s achievements not just in January, but even now. And his worshipper will think it’s true.


You forgot the Clintons selling children as sex slaves and immortality cannibal food out of a pizza shop basement.
NOTHING that you listed is true. Wow! Just, wow.

You should try reading the Pew report yourself, rather than having an editorial piece from Investors.com interpreting it for you. Pew does good work, but they just present the facts. Like….how people of each party are accepting homosexuality as part of human life. It’s just that Dems have more rapidly adjusted to the reality at hand, while Republicans, while have not adapted as well to reality.
The editorial is basically (purposefully)misreading the Pew report like this….
”In 1994 92% of Dems think it’s a bad idea to shoot yourself in the foot, while 37% of Repubs think that’s true. Now in 2017 100% of Dems think shooting oneself in the foot is bad news, while 40% of Republicans agree with that.” “So clearly the Dems are swinging more than TWICE as far from the more centrist Republicans yet again!” “Those crazy moon-bat Lefties!”



If you want bias OUT OF your news, then read the facts yourself.


You have obviously not been following the news.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/trump-military-enemy-from-within-election-day/index.html

Good reminder of how glad I am not to be an American.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Good reminder of how glad I am not to be an American.

You're luckier than me -- I'm not an American, but on a clear day I can see the place across the lake. And because we're so closely linked, we'll be the most impacted by whatever happens going forward.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Stop blaming me for the names other people might have called you. Blame me when I do it, and not before.

Uh huh, you blamed me for what Trump has called others because I voted for him. I was just doing the same. Is it right or wrong to do that?

And by the way, Vance deliberately and loudly called Harris "Garbage" in his closing speech.

If he did that, it was something he should not have done.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

If he did that, it was something he should not have done.

"If he did that..."

You are confirming something I've gathered all along -- you don't actually listen to those you support. So how in the heck can you really know what you're voting for?

I, on the other hand, listen very carefully to both sides. And I don't even get a vote!

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

"If he did that..."

You are confirming something I've gathered all along -- you don't actually listen to those you support. So how in the heck can you really know what you're voting for?

OMG, I was being honest, I did not hear him say that. Jeeze.

I, on the other hand, listen very carefully to both sides. And I don't even get a vote!

You just need a break, all you do is find anything to insult others with when you have no idea what they have or have not done.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

OMG, I was being honest, I did not hear him say that. Jeeze.

And that's my point. If you don't know what he says, why vote for him?

You just need a break, all you do is find anything to insult others with when you have no idea what they have or have not done.

If what I say about another person is backed up by real evidence -- especially if it's evidence provided by themselves, out of their own mouths -- then I don't think you can characterize what I'm saying as insulting them. Rather, I'm reporting on facts. If the facts are insulting -- well, that's hardly my fault, is it?