It does, but that wasn't your argument.
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How can a Jew reject Jesus as the Messiah?
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I mentioned it on post 2224.
You said this:
There is no lowercase in Hebrew and the spelling is not always different.
Hebrew having a different way of spelling from English doesn't change that the as concepts exist in both languages.
The concept, yes.
Psalm 82:6 does not put people on the level of God.
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
False, totally unethical misrepresentation of the original Hebrew text.
The Hint again: The original Hebrew does not have the punctuation added in the Western versions. The context of these texts are in the times and history of the Jews when they were written in Hebrew.
Who is the child in Isaiah 9:5-6?
Isaiah 9:5-6 says: "For a child has been born to us, a son has been given to us; and the government is upon his shoulder; and his name is called A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the ruler of peace; that the government may be increased, and of peace there be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to establish it, and to uphold it through justice and through righteousness from henceforth even forever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts does perform this." Who is the child the prophet speaks about?
Answer: Isaiah is known for the method by which he presents many of his messages through the use of prophetic names (Isaiah 7:3, 14; 8:3). In the verse under study, the prophet expounds his message by formulating a prophetic name for Hezekiah. The words of this name form a sentence expressive of God's greatness, which will become manifest in the benefits to be bestowed upon the future king in his lifetime. Thus, the name, though borne by the king, serves, in reality, as a testimonial to God. Hezekiah is called "a wonderful counselor" because this name is a sign, which foretells God's design for him.
The Lord of hosts has sworn, saying: "As I have thought, so shall it be, and as I have purposed, so shall it stand, that I will break Asshur in My land, and upon My mountains trample him under foot; then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulder." This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth; and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations. For the Lord of hosts has purposed, and who will annul it? And His hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back? (Isaiah 14:24-27)Be not afraid of the words that you have heard, with which the servants of the king of Assyria have blasphemed Me. Behold, I will put a spirit in him, and he shall hear a rumor, and shall return to his own land; and I will cause him to fall by the sword in his own land. (Isaiah 37:6-7)
Hezekiah is called "the mighty God" because this name is a sign that foretells God's defense of Jerusalem through the miraculous sudden mass death of Sennacherib's army.
Therefore thus says the Lord concerning the king of Assyria: He shall not come to this city, nor shoot an arrow there, neither shall he come before it with shield, nor cast a mound against it. By the way that he came, by the same shall he return, and he shall not come to this city, says the Lord. For I will defend this city to save it, for My own sake, and for My servant David's sake. (Isaiah 37:33-35)
Hezekiah is called "the everlasting Father" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God will add years to his life. "Go, and say to Hezekiah: Thus says the Lord, the God of David your father: I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears; behold, I will add to your days fifteen years" (Isaiah 38:5). Hezekiah is called "the ruler of peace" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God would be merciful to him. Punishment for lack of faith in the Almighty will be deferred and peace granted during the last years of his rule. "Then said Hezekiah to Isaiah: 'Good is the word of the Lord which you have spoken.' He said moreover: 'If but there shall be peace and security in my days'" (Isaiah 39:8). The fulfillment of the above-stated declarations is foretold in Isaiah 9:6, when, after the Assyrian defeat, Hezekiah's glory increased and peace reigned for the rest of his life (2 Chronicles 32:23). Archaeologists have found that there was a sudden expansion of Judean settlements in the years following the fall of the northern kingdom. This indicates that many refugees fled south, thus giving added significance to the statement "that the government may be increased." Hezekiah's kingdom is declared to be forever, for through his efforts to cleanse the Temple ritual of idolatry, even though apostasy followed under his son Menasseh, the Davidic dynasty was once more confirmed as the only true kingly rule that God would accept over his people "from henceforth and forever." The greatness of Hezekiah lies in his setting the stage for Israel's future. Hezekiah was a true reformer. He cleansed religious worship of foreign influence, purged the palace and the Temple of images and pagan altars, and reestablished pure monotheistic religion. In the long run Hezekiah's achievements would outlive him, leaving an everlasting, indelible impact on the history of his people. Thus, God, through Isaiah, bestows upon Hezekiah this name which honors the king by proclaiming the great things God will do for him, and, through him, for the people of Israel.
I challenge you for direct references that show the Jews changed the text showing prophesies. Like before and after texts with changes.
The issue is how God, Adonai, Elohim, and other terms were used by Hebrews in their own language describe God. The references referred to so far only refer to the Monotheistic One and only One God of the Tanakh.
Isaiah used the uppercase God to refer to mighty God, in Isaiah 9:6. I explained in post 2224 how the God and gods distinction has equivalents in the Hebrew language.
Hebrew in Isaiah and the rest of the Tanakh does not have punctuation nor upper and lower case nor equivalents as in Western languages.
Are you saying Exodus 7:1 put Moses on the same level as God?
No, how God and gods is used is in the Hebrew context.
Even with different spelling to express the same concept, the concept of God and gods being different exists in the Tanakh. Religion without a relationship with God is a lowercase god.
Different spelling, punctuation, and lower and upper case letter do not necessarily express the same concept. In fact as far as the Tanakh goes it th Western language translations the meaning and interpretation does change from the original Hebrew.
That's why God and gods are different. The one true God is a God of holiness, justice, and love. Isaiah 9:6 calls the Messiah the mighty God. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Already addressed this in post #2247
Isaiah 9:6 refers to the Messiah,not Hezekiah. That's why I believe that Isaiah 6:9 refers to God is the Messiah.
Yes, you believe that, but the Hebrew text in full context does not remotely mean what you claim. You need to understand things from the Hebrew perspective as described in the new Masoretic text thread.
Hezekiah is not mighty God because of God defending Jerusalem. One thing has nothing to do with the other.
The whole text in Hebrew refers to as described by my previous reference when you consider the whole of chapters and Isaiah as a whole. To come up with your interpretation you have to ignore the rest of the chapters involved.