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How can any true Christian accept an Appointing of a gay bishop ?

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Duck

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The Voice of Reason said:
Personally, my favorite post in this thread was when Angellous said "Eat my shorts".

I can't frubal him right now, but for my money, that single post really gets to the heart of the debate at hand. That is to say, when talking with a person that is incapable of hearing, you should always resort to something on their level.
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Auto and I are in agreement than when one cannot frubal, one should post ABBA posters or videos!
 
The Voice of Reason

The Voice of Reason

Doctor of Thinkology
Duck said:
Auto and I are in agreement than when one cannot frubal, one should post ABBA posters or videos!
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Even though it violates my sworn taste in music, I'll play along:
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PS - if you look closely, the blond is softly moaning "Take me, Voice of Reason". She really had a crush on the ol' scarecrow.
 
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tarasan

tarasan

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kejos said:
The voice of experience, it seems. :)
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universalists.... all tehy have is emotionalism to convince people and out of date evidence you should see his reaction to the hell verses, he caused me of cherry picking verses!

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sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
kejos said:
'...so great is his love for those who fear him.' Ps 103:11 NIV
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"Fear" isn't the same as "repentance" -- even in this context. Plus the fact, the Psalms were written for believers, so the salvific theology applies to them, and cannot be applied to anyone else. The Psalms were never intended to be used for the purposes of condemning. Eg: "Hey, look at this! It says right here that unless you fear God, you will be punished." Which isn't what it says. It's meant to comfort the believer, not condemn the sinner. You're ignoring the context.

The context tells us that Jesus forgave the prostitute even before she repented. same with the Samaritan woman. Perhaps forgiveness precedes repentance???
 
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Duck

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kejos said:
'...so great is his love for those who fear him.' Ps 103:11 NIV
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Personally, if fear is involved, I really doubt that love is. I don't fear the people I love, maybe you do, but seriously if fear is involved in your relationships, get out and get help before you get hurt.

Also, I wonder what the rest of Ps 103:11 reads that you had to excerpt this part?

And also, Do you or do you not support the GOP platforms calling for the imprisonment of gays? You dodged that question earlier.
 
rusra02

rusra02

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Muffled said:
The problem is that sometimes the denomination or church will not remove wickedness, so here is what the HS says to do: II COr 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what portion hath a believer with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement hath a temple of God with idols? for we are a temple of the living God; even as God said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore Come ye out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, And touch no unclean thing; And I will receive you, 18 And will be to you a Father, And ye shall be to me sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

I recently left a congregation because the denomination refused to purge the temples of Belial and the church I was attending wouldn't separate itself from the denomination. Their intentions were good in allowing Christians some leeway but the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. It is a duty of a Christian brother to exhort the one who is in error to change his ways but if the ways do not change to have no fellowship with him.
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You are to be commended for your desire to do what is right. The true faith or true religion will not permit such unrepentant conduct within it's congregations. That is one identifying mark of the true religion.
 
rusra02

rusra02

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Madhuri said:
I quite agree with what you have said, for the most part. It is Jesus who I like, the things he taught, but I find that so few Christians actually exemplify his teachings. People who get focussed on the things that are evil, when they discriminate, express hatered- all these things contradict Jesus' teachings. I find that there are so may people who are not even Christian that live a life closer to Jesus' teachings than many Christians do, in fact.

As for your last sentence, I must disagree. But that is only because when I think about Jesus, I see an empowered personality who came to teach people something other than the Jewish beliefs. I don't take anything from the OT seriously. I only take the few things that Jesus actually said seriously. The most important teachings were to love God with all your heart, soul and mind and to love neighbour as self. These were the sort of things he taught. He didn't tell us to get caught up in discrimination and worry about who is having sex with whom. He loved everyone. He was kind to everyone. He was inclusive. And if you believe that Jesus is God, then this is the example that must be followed.
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I think it was Ghandhi who said 'I love Christ but I dislike Christians'. That is not an exact quote. Most professed Christians are really not following Christ. Jesus Christ showed us what God is like, what his personality is like. Jesus gave strong counsel on how to avoid immorality and the consequences of falling into sin, in his famous sermon on the mount. (Matthew 5:27-31). Jesus followed the Law of Moses, and understood it was God's law, not mans. (Matthew 5:17-20) A loving parent will correct a child, not allow them to do things that would bring harm to the child or others. Just so, Jehovah corrects us and tells us how to avoid the heartbreaking consequences of wrong conduct. To do so is both his perogative and an expression of his love.
 
Dezzie

Dezzie

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thetruththewaythelife said:
This will split the church into those who follow the word of God and those that choose not to follow the word of God – how can you be a Christian and not follow the word of God ?
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Please tell me... how many Christians are hypocrites and how many follow every single "word of God" mentioned in the Bible? I would like a 100% accurate percentage too please... thanks...

Oh and to answer your question "How can any Christian accept the appointing of a gay Bishop?" .......... because he's a human being? :bow:
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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rusra02 said:
I think it was Ghandhi who said 'I love Christ but I dislike Christians'. That is not an exact quote. Most professed Christians are really not following Christ. Jesus Christ showed us what God is like, what his personality is like. Jesus gave strong counsel on how to avoid immorality and the consequences of falling into sin, in his famous sermon on the mount. (Matthew 5:27-31). Jesus followed the Law of Moses, and understood it was God's law, not mans. (Matthew 5:17-20) A loving parent will correct a child, not allow them to do things that would bring harm to the child or others. Just so, Jehovah corrects us and tells us how to avoid the heartbreaking consequences of wrong conduct. To do so is both his perogative and an expression of his love.
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And what did Jesus teach us about homosexuality?
 
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