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How can any true Christian accept an Appointing of a gay bishop ?

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Duck

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Autodidact said:
I'm am currently barred from sprinkling sparkly frubals about Duck's head and shoulders, as he so richly deserves. For some reason a google image search for frubal brought up this, so I hereby bestow it on you.

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Oooh, ABBA! Thank you so much!

I will of course pass this to Angellous as well, since I can't frubal him at the moment either.
 
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Autodidact

Autodidact

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kejos said:
Christians think that appalling, and very disappointing, too, that Uganda has become so unspiritual in half a century. Imposed morality is not the gospel, the following of which is always voluntary, and is usually a minority. It is always pseudo-Christians who attempt to impose their ideas of what is moral behavior on others. They I love how kejos knows what all Christians think, since Christians are defined as "people who agree with kejos." do this because they wish to counterfeit Christianity in order to evade it.
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But this thread concerns outsiders to the church (or what passes for the church) attempting to tell Christians what to do, which seems no less objectionable than what the Ugandans are doing, if with less serious physical consequences.
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Actually the thread is directed at Christians who disagree with you. Of course, you have defined them out of existence, which may explain why you didn't get that.
 
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Duck

Well-Known Member
Autodidact said:
Actually the thread is directed at Christians who disagree with you. Of course, you have defined them out of existence, which may explain why you didn't get that.
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You beat me to it.

Odd that suddenly we went from "How can any true Christian accept an Appointing of a gay bishop?" to 'outsiders telling christians what to do in their churches' isn't it? I mean its almost like not having a leg to stand on in the argument isn't it?

I also find it telling that while condemning the Ugandan parliament bill (which my understanding of is still on the table, unmodified) kejos totally dodged the questions regarding imprisonment of gays in the US, and the questions regarding the GOP platforms calling for that action. He also avoided questions regarding other things in the bible that would be considered reprehensible in modern America.

silence in this case I feel indicates agreement.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
kejos said:
It is always pseudo-Christians who attempt to impose their ideas of what is moral behavior on others. They do this because they wish to counterfeit Christianity in order to evade it.

But this thread concerns outsiders to the church (or what passes for the church) attempting to tell Christians what to do, which seems no less objectionable than what the Ugandans are doing, if with less serious physical consequences.
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This makes no sense at all. :shrug:
 
tumbleweed41

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
kejos said:
Christians think that appalling, and very disappointing, too, that Uganda has become so unspiritual in half a century. Imposed morality is not the gospel, the following of which is always voluntary, and is usually a minority. It is always pseudo-Christians who attempt to impose their ideas of what is moral behavior on others. They do this because they wish to counterfeit Christianity in order to evade it.
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Are you among the Christians? Or pseudo-Christians? Or neither?
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
kejos said:
'God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but have eternal life.' Jn 3:16-17

'Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather be afraid of God, who can destroy both body and soul in hell.' Mt 10:28 GNB


But he repented.


But he repented.


At first.


And got severely punished.


And more.

Those who want punishment, who wish to perish alive, be unrepentant homosexuals. Or tell people that homosexuality is acceptable.
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However, happily, that's not the jist of any of those stories. The theological jist is that God always chooses the underdog. Jesus came for the sick -- not those who are well. Jesus rejoiced that God kept God's secrets from the high and mighty and chose, instead to reveal them to the lowly. so, after all, it is about what God does in the lives of sinners, and not what the sinners do, that counts.
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
kejos said:
Christians think that appalling, and very disappointing, too, that Uganda has become so unspiritual in half a century. Imposed morality is not the gospel, the following of which is always voluntary, and is usually a minority. It is always pseudo-Christians who attempt to impose their ideas of what is moral behavior on others. They do this because they wish to counterfeit Christianity in order to evade it.

But this thread concerns outsiders to the church (or what passes for the church) attempting to tell Christians what to do, which seems no less objectionable than what the Ugandans are doing, if with less serious physical consequences.
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So, grace is insufficient for the whole world? Only a small minority? Why would a good God create people whom God knows will be unrepentant, and then provide no means for them to be preserved?
 
kejos

kejos

Active Member
sojourner said:
So, grace is insufficient for the whole world?
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'God commands all people everywhere to repent' so presumably there is enough grace to go round- but it's received only if it's accepted.

Only a small minority? Why would a good God create people whom God knows will be unrepentant, and then provide no means for them to be preserved?
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Why should God preserve those who detest him?
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
'God commands all people everywhere to repent' so presumably there is enough grace to go round- but it's received only if it's accepted.
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yet, God holds back God's hand and does not punish as we deserve.
Why should God preserve those who detest him?
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Because God is love and love is unconditional.
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
kejos said:
He came for those who admit their 'sickness', or rather, their sinfulness. Whatever their sin may be.
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No, he came for all humanity. Sin is systemic, not individual. At least in the biblical writers' POV.
 
The Voice of Reason

The Voice of Reason

Doctor of Thinkology
Personally, my favorite post in this thread was when Angellous said "Eat my shorts".

I can't frubal him right now, but for my money, that single post really gets to the heart of the debate at hand. That is to say, when talking with a person that is incapable of hearing, you should always resort to something on their level.
 
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