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How can people maintain sanity by applying shamelessly double standards

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
People learned nothing from history

We have seen in the past what happens when we make a dictator think that taking things by force works, when Chamberlain convinced the west to allow Hitler to have Sudetenland.
What we learn from history is that
people learn nothing from history.
 

BrightShadow

Active Member
Hamas, Hezbollah and other Islamist terrorist organizations have been attacking Israel for the last 75 years. Yes, 10/7 was just one day, but it was the culmination of decades of attacks.

Hamas are immoral cowards. They hide in hospitals and schools and universities. When the IDF enters one of these buildings it is with the intention to find terrorists. You do think that as a general rule we should allow terrorists to hide as a sort of "get out of jail free" strategy?

So you fight bad with evil?:rolleyes:

A dog bites you - and you tear up the dog with your bare hands and then barbecue and eat it?:oops: Is that how the humans should react?
Reactions shows they are not humans.
That is a inhumane!:mad:


Over 41,000 killed. Systematic destruction of an entire population . Had the people didn't flee - then over two million would have died. Every building standing has been destroyed.
That is barbecuing and eating the enemy and anyone living among the enemy. That is degusting.


This force can be compared to the equivalent of the barbarians of the past. Only difference is they are using bombs and drones at the press of a button.

Even if the enemy is hiding - you have to go down there and find them and fight 'face to face'.
Find the actual enemy 'face to face' and then try to kill them or die in the process.

Do police blow up a house with innocent civilians in it when a criminal hides in it?:confused:

Why the double standards? Why blow up hospitals and schools?:rolleyes:

Are you supporting a regime who does that (even in retaliation)?:rolleyes:
 
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icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Over 41,000 killed. Systematic destruction of an entire population . Had the people didn't flee - then over two million would have died. Every building standing has been destroyed.
We disagree on some crucial ideas here. Certainly, if I believed what you just said, I would understand your point. But I don't agree with what you just said. If Israel had wanted to kill two million Palestinians or a couple hundred thousand or whatever big number you suggest, they could have accomplished that on 10/8.

The facts are that for the last 14 months or so they've been putting their own troops in harm's way, battling with embedded cowards, so as to minimize civilian casualties.

As I've said before, I think the only solution here is for the UN to step in and eradicate Hamas from Gaza. And my guess is that if they did it, their approach would be a lot like the IDF's approach. The reasons I think the UN must take this on are (at least):

- The UN largely created this problem in the first place.
- The UN has watched this situation fester for decades and done nothing.
- For unclear reasons, a lot of people take the stance that this horrible situation is "100% because of the Jews", and as long as that's a common belief, there is no path for Israel to take that makes sense for Israel to survive. So the UN must step in.

Now I think it's unlikely that the UN will step in because the OIC is a huge voting block in the UN, the the OIC would never agree to a UN intervention.
 
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