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How can people maintain sanity by applying shamelessly double standards

GoodAttention

Well-Known Member
In Europe so many countries became independent thanks to separatism.

Shall we have the approval from the United States?
No...we are not handicapped over here. We are very smart and we can manage that

Their land back and live normal life with dignity, as all human beings.

But the problem Israel and West don't consider Palestinians as humans rights same.

Unfortunately that is true.

World has always had winners and losers, that is human history.

Look at Armenians who were living in Nagorno-Karabahk, they knew the fight was over and then accept it. This is how humans should behave, life goes on.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Their land back and live normal life with dignity, as all human beings.

But the problem Israel and West don't consider Palestinians as humans rights same.
and what land exactly is "palestinian" land, and how do you arrive at that opinion?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
and what land exactly is "palestinian" land, and how do you arrive at that opinion?
Let's take a side 1967 borders. That's Arab suggest peace.

Speak about Syrian. And Palestinian land of West bank and Jerusalem.

I don't think there will be a discussion of land if the slaughter of Israel continue.
Because the Palestinian now had two choice to Israel.
Die or leave.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Interesting. :)

With all due respect.
But I am an European...I speak five European languages, three of which fluently. I also can read and understand basic Russian.
I do know that in the US there is a Russophobic propaganda that means to depict Russia as a power that wants to conquer Europe.

But that's a lie. It was Nazis who wanted to conquer Russia. Not the other way around.
1. understanding russian is of no use here

2. @icehorse didn't say "europe". He said "eastern europe".
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Depending on your context there is no double standard here. If you agree that Israel has a right to exist, then they have a right to respond to any group that declares war on them. AND.. when you declare war, you might just get yourself obliterated.

So with this context, the Israelis and the Ukrainians are both defending their countries (quite well), no double standards.
Ukraine is defending against an existential threat from a powerful enemy.
Israel isn't.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
One question: if Ukraine renounces those four regions, its existence is threatened as nation?
Yes.
Because Russia will see that invasion succeeds.
It can take what it wants by force, & the world
will allow it. It will be encouraged to take more,
& not just from Ukraine.
Sure, Russia will lose vast numbers of men. But it
acquires children it captures to replace men lost.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Yes.
Because Russia will see that invasion succeeds.
It can take what it wants by force, & the world
will allow it. It will be encouraged to take more,
& not just from Ukraine.
Yes, sure.
In fact we yielded to the Croatians and gave them Istria.
And this encouraged them to take more lands.

No, dear. They accepted the deal, and since then we have been great friends. :)
Sure, Russia will lose vast numbers of men. But it
acquires children it captures to replace men lost.
This narrative is not credible.

That's why the dems lost.
 
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