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How Can We Identify True Worship?

savagewind

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Well if you are a true follower of christ we should be trying to follow the example that was set for us.
By whom? Who set the example?

As for the john 3:16, how do people come to know this information?
Somebody tells them. You should not believe your teachers who say that there is only one right way to know John 3:16.
 

anonymous9887

bible reader
By whom? Who set the example?

Somebody tells them. You should not believe your teachers who say that there is only one right way to know John 3:16.
I'm sure there is people that read John 3:16 and their life was affected, but it's a relationship that builds your faith not just John 3:16. The whole idea of why Jesus came to die for our sins and getting to know why it seems as though Yahweh was mean in the Hebrew scriptures is such an awesome experience that is.
 

savagewind

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If someone is told about John 3:16 by someone who is at work doing so and the person telling it is not friendly or likable it is not so effective as hearing it come from a friendly and free person. Agree?
 

anonymous9887

bible reader
If someone is told about John 3:16 by someone who is at work doing so and the person telling it is not friendly or likable it is not so effective as hearing it come from a friendly and free person. Agree?
I agree to a certain point. But the truth is the truth, even if I didn't like the person and they have a point no problem.

Here is my problem and a reality we face
1. Every christian should be glorifying YHWH and Jesus.
2. Many attach certain things to god and his son.
3. For many people it does not matter what John 3:16 because of the misunderstandings of the god of the old testament.
4. John 17:3 would also go with John 3:16, we can't isolate passages.
 

savagewind

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I agree to a certain point. But the truth is the truth, even if I didn't like the person and they have a point no problem.
Is it the truth that Jesus appointed the governing body to feed everybody righteousness at the table of Jehovah?

Here is my problem and a reality we face
1. Every christian should be glorifying YHWH and Jesus.
2. Many attach certain things to god and his son.
3. For many people it does not matter what John 3:16 because of the misunderstandings of the god of the old testament.
4. John 17:3 would also go with John 3:16, we can't isolate passages.
But see, here's the problem. Modern Bibles say John 17:3 says "know". But look it up and you will see to know is much too simple a word to explain what Jesus meant.. http://biblehub.com/greek/1097.htm
Matthew 7:14
 

savagewind

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1 Peter 2:21. Jesus made no disciple. Not even one.
1 John 2:6 Jesus made not one disciple.
John 13:15
 
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savagewind

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I must confess that I did not know Jehovah before the JWs visited me. But I was AWARE of God's existence before I ever heard of a Jehovah's Witness. And of course I was aware of Jesus Christ. I even knew about the apostles.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Yes, "God" thought him worthy to be added to the Bible. You're quoting a Catholic whom WT condemns. There is a difference. How in the world can you quote someone as having truth when you condemn everything they stand for?

I condemn everything they stand for? Those are your words, not mine.

We don't condemn any person, just the religious beliefs that are promoted to mislead them. These beliefs keep people from learning about Jehovah, "the only true God" whom Jesus prayed to at John 17:3, that it means life to learn about both Him and His Son Jesus, our Savior.

In fact, this is part of God's will, that people gain accurate knowledge (1 Timothy 2:3-4). And doing God's will is important! (Matthew 7:21)
 

anonymous9887

bible reader
Is it the truth that Jesus appointed the governing body to feed everybody righteousness at the table of Jehovah?

But see, here's the problem. Modern Bibles say John 17:3 says "know". But look it up and you will see to know is much too simple a word to explain what Jesus meant.. http://biblehub.com/greek/1097.htm
Matthew 7:14
Well I will definitely say that Jehovah selects individuals to do his will. The governing body is sanctifying gods name better in comparison to other religions, in my opinion. When we are talking about magnitude.

I do study the greek and look and lexicons. Read our translation in the 2013 NWT. Coming to know you is more proper.

Sanctifying gods name was part of Jesus prayers matthew 6:9.
 

anonymous9887

bible reader
Is it the truth that Jesus appointed the governing body to feed everybody righteousness at the table of Jehovah?

But see, here's the problem. Modern Bibles say John 17:3 says "know". But look it up and you will see to know is much too simple a word to explain what Jesus meant.. http://biblehub.com/greek/1097.htm
Matthew 7:14
I believe God selects individuals to use and accomplishes something through them.
Read our 2013 edition of the NWT, we use coming to know.
The new world translation is awesome!!! Still somethings I would translate different but fantastic either way!
 

savagewind

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Premium Member
Well I will definitely say that Jehovah selects individuals to do his will. The governing body is sanctifying gods name better in comparison to other religions, in my opinion. When we are talking about magnitude.

I do study the greek and look and lexicons. Read our translation in the 2013 NWT. Coming to know you is more proper.

Sanctifying gods name was part of Jesus prayers matthew 6:9.
Sanctify is not the same as popularize. They are somewhat of opposite meaning.
 

savagewind

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First of all, that scripture is about what the Pharisees thought he was doing not what Jesus said he was doing. Secondly, the meaning does not convey that he was transforming people, but that they were going to him despite the Pharisees' warning.
 

anonymous9887

bible reader
First of all, that scripture is about what the Pharisees thought he was doing not what Jesus said he was doing. Secondly, the meaning does not convey that he was transforming people, but that they were going to him despite the Pharisees' warning.
Yes. But the questions are these.
Was Jesus squad baptizing yes or no?
If so at who's direction were they baptizing?
If Jesus created no disciples why didn't the writer add that in, in the very next verse when he explains jesus did no baptizing?
 
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