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How can you be a True Christian™ if you don't take the Eden story literally?

Tinkerpeach

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
Audie said:
There is a great deal of information on such
as evolution and earth histoty.

None (zero) of it supports Bible story,
tho much directly disproves it.

How much of what sort of info do you need?
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It all supports the Bible in every single way.

As new scientific evidence is disclosed it allows Christians to narrow in their interpretations of what the Bible actually meant.

I’ve no idea why you think science is in any way in conflict with the Bible, it isn’t.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Tinkerpeach said:
It all supports the Bible in every single way.
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What makes you say that? For example there is no scientific evidence at all for the flood. None. And you would even agree to that fact. There is ample evidence that tells us that it never happened. So how is that supporting the Bible?
Tinkerpeach said:
As new scientific evidence is disclosed it allows Christians to narrow in their interpretations of what the Bible actually meant.
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Oh okay, when they said a worldwide flood they just meant a story of it? Can you please be more clear.
Tinkerpeach said:
I’ve no idea why you think science is in any way in conflict with the Bible, it isn’t.
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Science refutes the Adam and Eve myth. It refutes the Noah's ark myth. Archaeology refutes the Tower of Babel myth and the Exodus myth. How much to you need to have refuted to say that it supports the Bible?
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Tinkerpeach said:
It all supports the Bible in every single way.

As new scientific evidence is disclosed it allows Christians to narrow in their interpretations of what the Bible actually meant.

I’ve no idea why you think science is in any way in conflict with the Bible, it isn’t.
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What an extraordinary thing to say!
But I guess it's so, you really have no idea.

No idea of what the Bible says, what research shows,
one or the other, or both.

Bible sez flood. Facts show there wasnt.

You do know that-?
 
Tinkerpeach

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
Subduction Zone said:
What makes you say that? For example there is no scientific evidence at all for the flood. None. And you would even agree to that fact. There is ample evidence that tells us that it never happened. So how is that supporting the Bible?


Oh okay, when they said a worldwide flood they just meant a story of it? Can you please be more clear.

Science refutes the Adam and Eve myth. It refutes the Noah's ark myth. Archaeology refutes the Tower of Babel myth and the Exodus myth. How much to you need to have refuted to say that it supports the Bible?
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Well then obviously we need to look at our interpretations of those stories.

They aren’t myths they are incomplete records of events that occurred and science helps to fill in the gaps
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Tinkerpeach said:
Well then obviously we need to look at our interpretations of those stories.

They aren’t myths they are incomplete records of events that occurred and science helps to fill in the gaps
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No, they are clearly myths. There is no way to rescue them as written.

Do you understand that there was never only two people?

Do you understand that the human population never got down to eight people for as long as humans have existed?
 
Tinkerpeach

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
Subduction Zone said:
No, they are clearly myths. There is no way to rescue them as written.

Do you understand that there was never only two people?

Do you understand that the human population never got down to eight people for as long as humans have existed?
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You obviously don’t like God so there is really no point discussing this with you when you have a closed mind.

Believe as you wish
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Tinkerpeach said:
You obviously don’t like God so there is really no point discussing this with you when you have a closed mind.

Believe as you wish
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What makes you say that? If anything you are the one with a closed mind. Pointing out that a being that is portrayed as being evil and incompetent does not mean that I "don't like God". I am pretty much neutral in that aspect. The version of God that you believe in is probably rather easily refuted. That does not mean that God does not exist. It only means that your version is wrong.
 
ppp

ppp

Well-Known Member
Bthoth said:
What fall?
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In Christian theology, "The Fall" refers to the event in the Biblical book of Genesis where Adam and Eve, the first human beings, disobeyed God's command not to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. This act of disobedience is often seen as the moment when sin and death entered the world.
 
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Bthoth

Well-Known Member
ppp said:
In Christian theology, "The Fall" refers to the event in the Biblical book of Genesis where Adam and Eve, the first human beings, disobeyed God's command not to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. This act of disobedience is often seen as the moment when sin and death entered the world.
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I am aware of the narrative, as no body that could write was even there.

Did you read my opinion of the narrative? From instinctive life of the garden, to consciousness. Thereby becoming capable of naming Eve etc..
See Gen 3: 18-22, a good day!
 
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Bthoth

Well-Known Member
ppp said:
I did. What did you want me to do with that?
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Do nothing. You replied in the previous to explain what is even worse than my idea. Mankind did not fall. The religious claim that people are bad, is the rube of church doctrine.
 
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Sargonski

Well-Known Member
ppp said:
For those of you who don't take the story of the Fall literally. Adam, Eve, Tree, Serpent, etc, how do you envision the Fall of Man happening? And if it didn't happen, what use is Jesus?
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If a man commit a crime against you .. eeeeee must be paid back ... a 1000 times !! The Rod of Correction .. dat wat use .. !?

 
Tinkerpeach

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
SkepticThinker said:
Wait, so only people who like god are open minded, in your opinion?
That's a rather bizarre claim.
So the only way to like "god" is to never question anything said about that god?
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No but you have to be willing to see the other point of view but many people are incapable of that which is why it accomplishes nothing to discuss it with them.
 
Tinkerpeach

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
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Subduction Zone said:
What makes you say that? If anything you are the one with a closed mind. Pointing out that a being that is portrayed as being evil and incompetent does not mean that I "don't like God". I am pretty much neutral in that aspect. The version of God that you believe in is probably rather easily refuted. That does not mean that God does not exist. It only means that your version is wrong.
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I’ve never stated a preference for any version of God.
 
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