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This post again, again, and again is too too wordy and hard to respond to. You emphasis far too much on the "philosophy of science," which is history after Popper's work established Methodological Naturalism, Let's talk the objective factual application of science to the real world.
The lack of knowledge of science and evolution in this case is intentional, based on ancient tribal mythology without science.
Many??? Actually virtually all the scientists in the fields related to evolution (97%+) and ALL the major academic institutions of the world support the sciences of evolution.
Nice little... whatever that was.
Job 26:7 ESV…
That was your response to, "some [fish] became amphibians." I do know that. You can, too, but you'll have to open a book on evolution and your mind.
There were natural mechanisms taking and preserving "screen shots" of the past and leaving better records than photographs. Man has been discovering more and more of these clues over the decades and has pieced together the story of what happened in the main. A single ancestral cell population evolved into the tree of life we find today according to the application of natural selection to genetic variation across generations. That is settled science. It is correct beyond reasonable doubt. I've already explained that to you.
They don't tell you the story, but once again, why would an uniformed opinion matter to those who know that you are incorrect?
Not everyone's concept of "evidence" is such that it proves the point. A person accused of murder or another crime can be wrongfully convicted because of the way the "evidence" is presented and thought of by the jury.
Again, you really do not "know" that water dwelling fish evolved to be amphibians. You interpret certain fossils and possibly creatures that way, but that is all. There is nothing beyond that to show that fish "evolved" to become amphibians. It's like taking two old movies with similar story lines and then declaring without really knowing that they must have had the same director, even though no one really has the credentials. And even the credentials could be misleading. That is why in some court cases analysts are brought in to determine the truthfulness of what is brought forth as evidence. And sadly sometimes the analysts are wrong and people are wrongfully judged based on the evidence proposed by the lawyers.
It's almost like a tadpole forming into a human. The womb of life, evolutionary processes, macro, micro, and ongoing adaptations .... It's kinda cool, really. I mean, how can a fish or tadpole go from breathing water to air? I think it's weird ... Ohh, dragonflies go from nymphs to dragonflies from water to air like evolution suggests happened to humans.For beginners in layman terms. Of course you are perpetually intentionally ignorant of science based on an ancient tribal agenda,
The origin of tetrapods
evolution.berkeley.edu
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The origin of tetrapods
The word “tetrapod” means “four feet” and includes all species alive today that have four feet — but this group also includes many animals that don’t have four feet. That’s because the group includes all the organisms (living and extinct) that descended from the last common ancestor of amphibians, reptiles, and mammals. So, for example, the ichthyosaur, an extinct swimming reptile, is a tetrapod even though it did not use its limbs to walk on land. So is the snake, even though it has no limbs. And birds and humans are tetrapods even though they only walk on two legs. All these animals are tetrapods because they descend from the tetrapod ancestor described above, even if they have secondarily lost their “four feet.”
Tetrapod phylogeny from The Tangled Bank, used with permission of the author, Carl Zimmer, and publisher, Roberts & Company, Greenwood Village, Colorado.
Tetrapods evolved from a finned organism that lived in the water. However, this ancestor was not like most of the fish we are familiar with today. Most animals we call fishes today are ray-finned fishes, the group nearest the root of this evogram. Ray-finned fishes comprise some 25,000 living species, far more than all the other vertebrates combined. They have fin rays — that is, a system of often branching bony rays (called lepidotrichia) that emanate from the base of the fin.
In contrast, the other animals in the evogram — coelacanths, lungfishes, all the other extinct animals, plus tetrapods (represented by Charles Darwin) — have what we call “fleshy fins” or “lobe fins.” That is, their limbs are covered by muscle and skin. Some, such as coelacanths, retain lepidotrichia at the ends of these fleshy limbs, but in most fleshy-finned animals these have been lost.
The common ancestor of all those different organisms (ray-fins, coelacanths, lungfishes, tetrapods, etc.) was neither a lobe-fin nor a ray-fin. This ancient vertebrate lineage had fins (with lepidotrichia), scales, gills, and lived in the water. Yet they also had air bladders (air-filled sacs) connected to the back of their throats that could be used for breathing air (i.e., as lungs) or for buoyancy control. The air bladders of many ray-fins no longer connect to their throats, and so they are not able to breathe air. In these ray-fins, the air bladder is used mainly for buoyancy control and is known as a swim bladder. By contrast, tetrapods have taken an alternative route: they have lost the buoyancy control function of their air bladders, and instead this organ been elaborated to form the lungs that we all use to get around on land.
When we get past coelacanths and lungfishes on the evogram, we find a series of fossil forms that lived between about 390 and 360 million years ago during the Devonian Period. During this interval, this lineage of fleshy-finned organisms moved from the water to the land. Many parts of the skeleton changed as new innovations that permitted life on land evolved.
For example, the ancestors at the base of this evogram lived fully in the water and had skulls that were tall and narrow, with eyes facing sideways and forwards. This allowed them to look around in their watery environments for predators and prey. However, as ancestors of the first tetrapods began to live in shallower waters, their skulls evolved to be flatter, with eyes on the tops of their heads. This probably allowed them to look up to spot food. Then, as tetrapods finally moved fully onto land and away from the water, many lineages once again evolved skulls that were tall and narrow, with eyes facing sideways and forwards, allowing them to look around their terrestrial environments for predators and prey.
As lineages moved into shallower water and onto land, the vertebral column gradually evolved as well. You may have noticed that fishes have no necks. Their heads are simply connected to their shoulders, and their individual vertebrae look quite similar to one another, all the way down the body. Mobile necks allow land animals to look down to see the things on the ground that they might want to eat. In shallow water dwellers and land dwellers, the first neck vertebra evolved different shapes, which allowed the animals to move their heads up and down. Eventually, the second neck vertebra evolved as well, allowing them to move their heads left and right. Later tetrapods evolved necks with seven or more vertebrae, some long and some short, permitting even more mobility.
Read on, but I doubt you will . . .
Actually, this reference is not scientifically accurate and relatively meaningless in the context of the whole mythology of the Genesis Creation Narrative and the mythology of Noah's Flood, which are an ancient cultural perspective without science, Your neglecting the fact that Genesis Cosmology was a geocentric universe. It was not unusual for the view that the heavenly bodies are suspended by nothing including the earth as the center of the cosmos are suspended in the firmament as viewed in the heavens,Job 26:7 ESV…
Job 26 ESV
“He stretches out the north over the void and hangs the earth on nothing.”
Job 26:7 - Job: Who Can Understand God's Majesty?
He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth upon nothing.biblehub.com
This is from no “ancient cultural perspective.”
Back then, such an expressed view would have been considered ignorant, at the very least.
But today we know it’s scientifically accurate!
No. It's more like having two individuals with plenty of DNA matches in nested hierarchical structure, demonstrating that they share ancestry.
The lack of knowledge of science and evolution in this case is intentional, based on ancient tribal mythology without science.
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I wasn't objecting. It is cool and weird and very common, but I'll digress on the extracting o2 from water statement. It is how they breath. The gills extract as you stated. I sometimes wonder if fire breathing dragons are real, and which would win out on the o2 consumption. Momma always said 9 months was too long. I can't imagine how momma earth feels with all her birthing pains and what have you. One point, will she always recycle?
Science does not "prove" points. Law is NOT science.
Juries are lay people hearing a case for a few weeks and trying to make sense of ideas that they didn't understand before a lawyer tried to teach them. Scientists are professionals at interpreting evidence. The scientific community is the equivalent of the jury, and it is a much larger community than a jury and been empaneled for decades. The comparison isn't apt.
Again, I do know that. It's YOU that doesn't know that.
