How did the Egyptians build the pyramids?

[cladking]

It was done to make G1 a clock and a calendar.

This is in evidence and supported in the PT.

Unlike ramps that are not in evidence and not supported anywhere at all. The word isn't even attested. It is smoke and mirrors just like calling little tiny piles of rubble that weren't even identifiable before excavation, "pyramids". The Egyptians made actual huge pyramids for a couple centuries and then they never made another one. They made little piles of rubble Egyptologists call "pyramids" so they can ignore a change in language, religion, culture, and the means used to build pyramids.

 

[cladking]

There is no evidence to support Egyptological beliefs. These beliefs arose naturally because Champollion's translations were inferior to Young's who was behind in the race to complete the work because he was doing it right. Young was doing real science and Champollion was doing linguistics. The world went to hell. The difference was insignificant until 1883 when the PT were discovered and translated in terms of the book of the dead translated by means of Champollion's work. This caused author intent to be invisible because we think differently AND it wasn't translated using good methodology.

During the 19th century a lot of great science was being done (by people like Thomas Young) even though much of it was very wrong. but after it was discovered the pyramid builders were superstitious bumpkins and we are the crown of creation it started going very wrong. Instead of building on Darwin's work it was enshrined. Quacks like Freud arose everywhere. The entire species whom were already homo omnisciencis got so big for their britches they just dismissed every human being who came before as bumpkins. Science became more than just a tool but a weapon to beat heretics and people began to forget what science is and how it works. They began to think that it was powered by genius like Champollion and Einstein and their word was as effective as physical law. They began to think in the 20th century that experts could just look and see reality itself. We wanted to believe because we all wanted to sit at the crown of creation and enjoy the technology we believed came from science rather than stupid human tricks.

This is how we got to the point that Egyptology is wrong about everything and their nonsensical beliefs have rippled throughout all of science. It's hardly surprising that since Egyptology doesn't do any science and doesn't allow scientists to come in and do it that false statements about the pyramids have proliferated all over the media for many many years. Garbage In Garbage Out. All this falsity is seen by Egyptologists so they have a knee jerk reaction to ignore and dismiss all outside influence especially from scientists whom they hold in disdain.

No individual is responsible in the past or since. This is the natural way that the activities of homo omniscience unfold because we can't see reality and don't even know we can't see reality. We see what we believe, what we are told, and what we expect. We each build individual models of reality and don't even notice these models differ and they are all incorrect but more importantly they are constructed of beliefs. It behooves us all to not believe doctrine whether it appears in textbooks or the Bible.

It will be a simple matter to lift ourselves out of the 1890's and go back and repair the 1820's. This will allow us to in very short order get our butts out of the 19th century and get with the times. Thousands of experiments have been done that are not in everyone's models. There is no clockwork reality, no laws of nature, and mathematics does not reflect reality but rather reality and math correspond because they both reflect logic just like animal brains and Ancient Language.


This post represents the culmination of my life's work to date. To write it I had to understand the nature of thought which was my first ongoing project from when I was quite small. And I had to recognize how it was different than consciousness that I barely knew existed until I saw human consciousness in the Pyramid Texts as a result of reverse engineering the great pyramids.

I'm quite aware that this is no great advancement and the real work of formatting a new science lies ahead. Most of it is just rediscovery of things that were forgotten and showing a clear path to recovering the memory. Science is very individual and always will be but reality is far too complex for any individual to make more than just incremental progress. Yes, we see from the shoulders of giants but we're all very near sighted and we use kaleidoscopic eye wear.

 

[shunyadragon]

Many Egyptologists believe these stone were cut after being installed. I don't know but It seems very improbable to me.



The pyramid is an eight sided structure (it's actually more no matter how you count them) with each of the four side being bifurcated.

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That this was used to support casing stone was an idea dreamed up be Egyptologists. It was done to make G1 a clock and a calendar.

No, it is based on the physical evidence of casing stone found from the pyramids.

Looking At How Pyramids Were Built Using Their Casing Stones

As one of the most famous Ancient Egyptian pyramids, the Pyramid of Khafre on the plateau of Giza has been a true wonder of the Ancient World ever since its construction around 2570 BCE. Today, wel…

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As one of the most famous Ancient Egyptian pyramids, the Pyramid of Khafre on the plateau of Giza has been a true wonder of the Ancient World ever since its construction around 2570 BCE. Today, well over 4,500 years later, we are still as puzzled as our ancestors over the past hundreds of years how exactly this and other pyramids were constructed. Although many theories exist, including ramps that envelop the entire pyramid, to intricate construction methods from the inside out, the only evidence we have left are these pyramids themselves.
This is where the jokingly called [History for Granite] channel on YouTube has now pitched some new ideas, involving the casing stones that used to fully cover the Pyramid of Khafre, prior to widespread theft and vandalism.
Bonding stones within the casing stones on the Pyramid of Khafre. (Credit: History for Granite, YouTube)
Despite the pyramids of Giza in particular being a veritable tourist trap, said tourists are heavily discouraged from climbing onto the pyramids, or even set up high-powered camera gear on tripods near them. Even with drone footage available, it was necessary to get a zoomed-in look on the casing stones that remain on the pyramid of Khafre near its top at well over 100 meters. Working within these limitations, it was possible to take detailed photos of three sides of the pyramid, which revealed interesting details.
In the top screenshot from the video the top of the pyramid is visible, which gives some indication of just how much the pyramid may have shifted out of alignment due to earthquakes over the millennia. This turned out to be not significant enough to account for some purported ‘gaps’ between the casing stones, with supposed ‘filler material’ from scaffolding holes explainable as just broken off sections of these casing stones. What was more interesting was that a pattern could be found in so-called bonding stones.
Pattern of bonding stones on the north face of the pyramid of Khafre. (Credit: History for Granite, YouTube)
These bonding stones have a slanted end, so that they can be lifted slightly above a matching slanted stone, before being lowered to complete a row of bricks or stonework. After analyzing the three faces of the still mostly intact casing stones, a clear pattern emerged, such as that on the north face, pictured here.
What this suggests is that each row of casing stones were laid down by multiple groups of workers, each starting at a specific point before coming together where those sections would be joined with a bonding stone. This lends credence to the theory that the pyramid was constructed layer by layer, including the outer covering. To further examine these clues, the even older Bent Pyramid at the royal necropolis of Dahshur with mostly intact casing stones will be examined in more detail next.
If anything this series shows just how much there still is that we don’t know about these massive construction projects that are really only preceded by the works of the Sumerian and Akkadian people.

 

[cladking]

No, it is based on the physical evidence of casing stone found from the pyramids.

Looking At How Pyramids Were Built Using Their Casing Stones

As one of the most famous Ancient Egyptian pyramids, the Pyramid of Khafre on the plateau of Giza has been a true wonder of the Ancient World ever since its construction around 2570 BCE. Today, wel…

hackaday.com

As one of the most famous Ancient Egyptian pyramids, the Pyramid of Khafre on the plateau of Giza has been a true wonder of the Ancient World ever since its construction around 2570 BCE. Today, well over 4,500 years later, we are still as puzzled as our ancestors over the past hundreds of years how exactly this and other pyramids were constructed. Although many theories exist, including ramps that envelop the entire pyramid, to intricate construction methods from the inside out, the only evidence we have left are these pyramids themselves.
This is where the jokingly called [History for Granite] channel on YouTube has now pitched some new ideas, involving the casing stones that used to fully cover the Pyramid of Khafre, prior to widespread theft and vandalism.
Bonding stones within the casing stones on the Pyramid of Khafre. (Credit: History for Granite, YouTube)
Despite the pyramids of Giza in particular being a veritable tourist trap, said tourists are heavily discouraged from climbing onto the pyramids, or even set up high-powered camera gear on tripods near them. Even with drone footage available, it was necessary to get a zoomed-in look on the casing stones that remain on the pyramid of Khafre near its top at well over 100 meters. Working within these limitations, it was possible to take detailed photos of three sides of the pyramid, which revealed interesting details.
In the top screenshot from the video the top of the pyramid is visible, which gives some indication of just how much the pyramid may have shifted out of alignment due to earthquakes over the millennia. This turned out to be not significant enough to account for some purported ‘gaps’ between the casing stones, with supposed ‘filler material’ from scaffolding holes explainable as just broken off sections of these casing stones. What was more interesting was that a pattern could be found in so-called bonding stones.
Pattern of bonding stones on the north face of the pyramid of Khafre. (Credit: History for Granite, YouTube)
These bonding stones have a slanted end, so that they can be lifted slightly above a matching slanted stone, before being lowered to complete a row of bricks or stonework. After analyzing the three faces of the still mostly intact casing stones, a clear pattern emerged, such as that on the north face, pictured here.
What this suggests is that each row of casing stones were laid down by multiple groups of workers, each starting at a specific point before coming together where those sections would be joined with a bonding stone. This lends credence to the theory that the pyramid was constructed layer by layer, including the outer covering. To further examine these clues, the even older Bent Pyramid at the royal necropolis of Dahshur with mostly intact casing stones will be examined in more detail next.
If anything this series shows just how much there still is that we don’t know about these massive construction projects that are really only preceded by the works of the Sumerian and Akkadian people.

Oh, I see what you mean now. Keep in mind that this is just one man's hypothesis and does not reflect Egyptological opinion in any way shape or form. He supports it better than most but it's just opinion. Egyptology considers "History for Granite" pure quackery. I hold a higher opinion.

Egyptology accepts no input and they don't do science so they aren't going to look and see what's up there.

 

[River Sea]

No, it is based on the physical evidence of casing stone found from the pyramids.

Looking At How Pyramids Were Built Using Their Casing Stones

As one of the most famous Ancient Egyptian pyramids, the Pyramid of Khafre on the plateau of Giza has been a true wonder of the Ancient World ever since its construction around 2570 BCE. Today, wel…

hackaday.com

As one of the most famous Ancient Egyptian pyramids, the Pyramid of Khafre on the plateau of Giza has been a true wonder of the Ancient World ever since its construction around 2570 BCE. Today, well over 4,500 years later, we are still as puzzled as our ancestors over the past hundreds of years how exactly this and other pyramids were constructed. Although many theories exist, including ramps that envelop the entire pyramid, to intricate construction methods from the inside out, the only evidence we have left are these pyramids themselves.
This is where the jokingly called [History for Granite] channel on YouTube has now pitched some new ideas, involving the casing stones that used to fully cover the Pyramid of Khafre, prior to widespread theft and vandalism.
Bonding stones within the casing stones on the Pyramid of Khafre. (Credit: History for Granite, YouTube)
Despite the pyramids of Giza in particular being a veritable tourist trap, said tourists are heavily discouraged from climbing onto the pyramids, or even set up high-powered camera gear on tripods near them. Even with drone footage available, it was necessary to get a zoomed-in look on the casing stones that remain on the pyramid of Khafre near its top at well over 100 meters. Working within these limitations, it was possible to take detailed photos of three sides of the pyramid, which revealed interesting details.
In the top screenshot from the video the top of the pyramid is visible, which gives some indication of just how much the pyramid may have shifted out of alignment due to earthquakes over the millennia. This turned out to be not significant enough to account for some purported ‘gaps’ between the casing stones, with supposed ‘filler material’ from scaffolding holes explainable as just broken off sections of these casing stones. What was more interesting was that a pattern could be found in so-called bonding stones.
Pattern of bonding stones on the north face of the pyramid of Khafre. (Credit: History for Granite, YouTube)
These bonding stones have a slanted end, so that they can be lifted slightly above a matching slanted stone, before being lowered to complete a row of bricks or stonework. After analyzing the three faces of the still mostly intact casing stones, a clear pattern emerged, such as that on the north face, pictured here.
What this suggests is that each row of casing stones were laid down by multiple groups of workers, each starting at a specific point before coming together where those sections would be joined with a bonding stone. This lends credence to the theory that the pyramid was constructed layer by layer, including the outer covering. To further examine these clues, the even older Bent Pyramid at the royal necropolis of Dahshur with mostly intact casing stones will be examined in more detail next.
If anything this series shows just how much there still is that we don’t know about these massive construction projects that are really only preceded by the works of the Sumerian and Akkadian people.

@shunyadragon @GoodAttention @cladking

crumble stone
@GoodAttention was asking earlier what was the glue, or something like glue, to hold the together, the bonding filler, I still am curious of center outward, similar to ants making hills.

so what would happen if center outward

I'll go find in thread further up @cladking mention this too for

That is mostly how it was done. Apparently the east side went up first and then once they were done to 80' they evened out the this first step before construction of the second step began. Any excess capacity was used to fill the step sides as they progressed. A few years before completion when they began building the 83' pyramid no top of these steps the structure would look like a crazy patchwork of completed areas and places where the steps tops hadn't even begun.

I guess what I'm saying is how do animals build structures - then did this cause humans to learn from animals back when and so could pyramids be made similar to how animals build structures, so how do ants make a hill? Center outward?

What would happen if build center outward, is that possible and do that idea of crumble stone and blend it like glue so stays?

I look to see: how ants make hill., because ants do built from center outward, I'm taking a look. I need to re-read this to see

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Ants create a hill, also called an anthill, by excavating soil underground with their mandibles, then carrying the small bits of dirt to the surface and depositing them in a specific pattern, forming a mound as they dig tunnels and chambers for their colony; this process is a coordinated effort with different ants specializing in digging, transporting, and constructing, resulting in the visible hill above ground while the majority of the nest remains below the surface.


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  The visible mound is only a small part of the ant nest, with a complex network of tunnels and chambers extending deep underground.
  
  
  
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  Besides soil, ants may incorporate other materials like sand, plant fragments, or even pebbles into their anthills depending on their environment.
  
  
  
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  The hill serves as an entrance to the underground nest, helps regulate temperature, and can provide protection from predators.

 

[cladking]

I guess what I'm saying is how do animals build structures - then did this cause humans to learn from animals back when and so could pyramids be made similar to how animals build structures, so how do ants make a hill? Center outward?

For every practical purpose homo sapiens were animals. They were a force of nature as surely the largest bat colony or a volcano. They each thought alike and operated in tandem. They also well understood all life including termites or ants. They learned much of what they knew by observing other species and through language that reflected knowledge of reality and other species. Their brains worked very similarly to the way an ant brain works.

If building pyramids from the inside was the best way then that's what they did.

Keep in mind the early great pyramids were built from the inside in what Egyptologists call "accretion layers". They built a small tower with stones leaning in at a 70 degree angle and added to it. Rather than placing the lifting devices on steps they put them on accretion layers.

There appear to have been three different means for building these but all used linear funiculars.

 

[cladking]

For every practical purpose homo sapiens were animals.

Homo omnisciencis aren't really animals because we each have our own beliefs and own minds. We rarely cooperate even when we come together to form corporations because each employee has his own needs and preferences and will work against other employees he doesn't like. Each department works for its own needs even if it hurts other departments or the entire corporation. Workers are divided into salaried and unions, or the incompetent and the unwilling. The company fights the union who fight the employees who fight the company in a daisy chain of hatred and deceit. No hand knows what any other hand is doing and the only people who ever speak for the company are the most ignorant of all.

Prairie dogs would just be snack food for coyotes if nature operated this way.

Pyramid building wasn't like that. Every worker was highly motivated and worked in the job that was best suited to his needs and intellectual attainment. Failure didn't get you a promotion but rather either being exiled or a demotion. You weren't asked about what you were thinking or whether you were OK, you got the boot. They didn't experience "pressure" because they were in the right place. Mistakes took lives so nobody made them. There are even rituals in the Pyramid Texts exhorting even the lower tier workers to work safely and keep their eyes open. Some jobs were critical to efficient and safe operation. The Overseer of the Side of the Pyramid could take a two hour beer filled lunch sometimes but the Ferryman had to pay complete attention until he was spelled. The Overseer of the Boats of Neith could not wander off to look at the pretty rainbow over the primeval mound. A lot of these guys didn't work very hard but they had to be hard at work until relieved.

 

[Pogo]

Homo omnisciencis aren't really animals because we each have our own beliefs and own minds. We rarely cooperate even when we come together to form corporations because each employee has his own needs and preferences and will work against other employees he doesn't like. Each department works for its own needs even if it hurts other departments or the entire corporation. Workers are divided into salaried and unions, or the incompetent and the unwilling. The company fights the union who fight the employees who fight the company in a daisy chain of hatred and deceit. No hand knows what any other hand is doing and the only people who ever speak for the company are the most ignorant of all.

Prairie dogs would just be snack food for coyotes if nature operated this way.

Pyramid building wasn't like that. Every worker was highly motivated and worked in the job that was best suited to his needs and intellectual attainment. Failure didn't get you a promotion but rather either being exiled or a demotion. You weren't asked about what you were thinking or whether you were OK, you got the boot. They didn't experience "pressure" because they were in the right place. Mistakes took lives so nobody made them. There are even rituals in the Pyramid Texts exhorting even the lower tier workers to work safely and keep their eyes open. Some jobs were critical to efficient and safe operation. The Overseer of the Side of the Pyramid could take a two hour beer filled lunch sometimes but the Ferryman had to pay complete attention until he was spelled. The Overseer of the Boats of Neith could not wander off to look at the pretty rainbow over the primeval mound. A lot of these guys didn't work very hard but they had to be hard at work until relieved.

So which was it, a Marxist utopia or a corporatist nightmare? You seem to have melded the two into something?

 

[cladking]

So which was it, a Marxist utopia or a corporatist nightmare? You seem to have melded the two into something?

These are abstractions. Ancient people didn't do abstraction and we do nothing but.

In our words we have "corporate dystopia" or perhaps "dystrophy" or "atrophy".

They had what was a utopian commonwealth for them but would be a hell on earth for most modern people. Not because they had to be hard at work but because there was little opportunity to have the types of experience that make us feel most alive. We are too different to exist as they did or to want to.

 

[River Sea]

@shunyadragon @GoodAttention @cladking

from video that @shunyadragon shared from website in earlier post: and I want to show in comment area.

I saw in the comment area that sunspot1225 also wonders if built from top downwards; however, I was thinking more of how an ants makes a hill. Maybe this is what sunspot1225 is thinking too? I don't know 'till asking. If I ask.

Here's comment
@Sunspot1225.
6 hours ago
It is not widely known, and some may be reluctant to acknowledge, that the construction of the Pyramids involved a unique approach where they were built from the top downwards. The specific methods employed to achieve this remain undisclosed, but this technique facilitated greater artistic freedom and allowed for the incorporation of diverse internal structures.

For further information, please do not hesitate to ask.

Thank you for your attention.

 

[River Sea]

@GoodAttention @cladking @shunyadragon @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

short video showing ants making an ant hill

I want to know how similar is pyramids building same as ants building hill

 

[shunyadragon]

@GoodAttention @cladking @shunyadragon @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

short video showing ants making an ant hill

I want to know how similar is pyramids building same as ants building hill

Only that gravity influences the success of the form they type of hill ants evolved to the particular ant hill design adapted particular species, Other that no real relationship.,

 

[shunyadragon]

Oh, I see what you mean now. Keep in mind that this is just one man's hypothesis and does not reflect Egyptological opinion in any way shape or form. He supports it better than most but it's just opinion. Egyptology considers "History for Granite" pure quackery. I hold a higher opinion.

Egyptology accepts no input and they don't do science so they aren't going to look and see what's up there.

I do not believe you see what I mean, . . . my references, We will always have a 'failure to communicate, because concerning the sciences of evolution, the science of the pyramids I accept academic science, and you do not.

I seriously question your statement Egyptologists don't do science when you do not accept science. Egyptologists basically do the contemporary sciences of archeology, geology, Chemistry, Physics, and Methodological Naturalism, and you do not..

 

[cladking]

I do not believe you see what I mean, . . . my references, We will always have a 'failure to communicate, because concerning the sciences of evolution, the science of the pyramids I accept academic science, and you do not.

And how many times have I told you the Evolution IS science but Egyptology is NOT? Most of the communication failure is on YOU.

 

[shunyadragon]

And how many times have I told you the Evolution IS science but Egyptology is NOT? Most of the communication failure is on YOU.

How many times?!?!?! I do not accept virtually everything you post, because of your ancient mythology world view, and yes reject cience..

The above is confusing. You do not accept the sciences of evolution.

I seriously question your statement Egyptologists don't do science when you do not accept science. Egyptologists basically do the contemporary sciences of archeology, geology, Chemistry, Physics, and Methodological Naturalism, and you do not.. I consider Egyptology a specialized academic discipline of archeology and academic history. Like archeology the used the basic sciences in their academic work,

https://www.thebritishacademy.ac.uk/blog/what-is-egyptology/

Egyptology is not a single discipline, but a branch of 'Area Studies'. Egyptologists study all the aspects of ancient Egypt that they can, across periods from about 7,000 BC to the early middle ages. They work from many perspectives, using approaches and methods ranging all the way from literary theory in the humanities to hard sciences in the physics of radiocarbon dating. They are active as academics, researchers and museum curators, and they communicate their work as widely as they can. No two Egyptologists have the same interests and focuses.

 

[shunyadragon]

Oh, I see what you mean now. Keep in mind that this is just one man's hypothesis and does not reflect Egyptological opinion in any way shape or form. He supports it better than most but it's just opinion. Egyptology considers "History for Granite" pure quackery. I hold a higher opinion.

Egyptology accepts no input and they don't do science so they aren't going to look and see what's up there.

Please explain this "History of Granite" you are referring to.

The nature and natural history of Granite is determined by the science of geology as a metamorphic natural rock formed deep in the earth..

 

[cladking]

How many times?!?!?! I do not accept virtually everything you post,

You also play word games with it and fail to respond to every point.

 

[cladking]

The above is confusing. You do not accept the sciences of evolution.

This is responding to the point. Thank you.

I accept Evolution as a science. But like any science it can be wrong and in my scientific opinion it IS wrong.

Egyptology is NOT a science at all. They not only fail to gather evidence or perform experiment but when data are found it is not allowed to be published at all.

Infrared imaging was understood in principle back in the mid-19th century. Primitive processes were available before the end of that century. By 1925 you could walk into a drug store in Cairo Egypt and buy infrared film for a camera. This was never done on the pyramids because Egyptology is no science at all. I campaigned for years to get Egyptology to point a camera at it which they finally did in 2015 and found exactly what I predicted. Scalding hot stones.

I knew exactly where they would be because I understand Ancient Language. Despite this being nearly ten years later not even Egyptologists have been allowed to see most of this data. Hawass released the above photo because he didn't understand the implications and probably didn't know I had predicted it. He thought he could spur tourism or use it in his obsession with finding more gold. He issued an urgent plea for Egyptologists to offer hypotheses as to its cause. But never contacted me even after he knew I predicted it.

Any field that takes a century and a half to employ the tools of science is not a science at all. When they then don't allow even Peers to see that data they are not even an organized pseudoscience.

Yes!!! They are not a science which is why most of what you have posted in this thread are not even true or not consensus opinion.

 

[cladking]

Egyptologists basically do the contemporary sciences of archeology, geology, Chemistry, Physics, and Methodological Naturalism

I can make a long list of the science that has never been applied to the great pyramids including a few I invented myself. There is technology that can be adapted to the pyramids because they are not built like other things that can be studied with off the shelf technology. This is IN ADDITION to off the shelf technology that has never been used.

But "science" is a perspective not a collection of disparate technology. It requires a methodical and systematic application of knowledge and technology. It requires that anomalies are studied not brushed off like a hot potato.

Egyptology is afraid of the pyramid because every time they look it fails to support their nonsensical and irrational beliefs about ramps exist because they are the only thing can, that the pyramids were tombs, and that the builders were ignorant and superstitious. They are petriefied by the pyramids so they study them with their backs turned to them.

They parse a language that can't be parsed to glean ever more details about some magic that never existed.

 

[shunyadragon]

You also play word games with it and fail to respond to every point.

No word games and I have responded to every point of your posts.

Egyptology uses physics and geology, and in particular mineralogy to understand the physical evidence of how they pyramids,

All ancient cultures used very basic physic principles such as inclined plan (ramps), lever, simple pulley, over coming friction with lubricants like wet sand and olive oil,

You still deny the physical evidence of the use of ramps in the quarry, Meidum pyramid, and the Giza pyramid. you keep with stoic persistence rejecting actual physical evidence.