How did the Egyptians build the pyramids?

[cladking]

I've never really understood how I can present facts, logic, and evidence in every post but it is always trumped by some believer saying they mustta used ramps because linguists who don't understand science say so. I can show the entire pyramid building infrastructure lying in ruins and a culture that matches it but an Egyptologist only has to say "ramps are the only means consistent with the culture" to overturn all my work. They have no evidence except a book of incantation and a belief in ramps but everyone thinks this is better than one man working alone with logic and facts.

I call our species "sleep walkers" because we are living something that can never match reality like a dream. Apropos of nothing in particular I used to enjoy lucid dreaming but then one night it got uncomfortable and I wanted to wake up but the characters in the dream were insistent that I not. Suffice to say it got a lot more uncomfortable before I finally woke up. "Homo omnisciencis, living the dream"

 

[cladking]

Must’ve been god then.

The evidence suggests it was neither ramps nor God. The people said natural forces built the pyramids and they described each of these natural forces in minute detail. Cutting to the chase they said that water from a carbonated aquifer was used in linear funiculars to move and lift every stone. The names of their occupations are consistent with this.

It is Egyptologists who believe in magic and Gods.

 

[Pogo]

Must’ve been god then.

Or aliens.

 

[Jimmy]

The evidence suggests it was neither ramps nor God. The people said natural forces built the pyramids and they described each of these natural forces in minute detail. Cutting to the chase they said that water from a carbonated aquifer was used in linear funiculars to move and lift every stone. The names of their occupations are consistent with this.

It is Egyptologists who believe in magic and Gods.

Nah. Many men can easily move a block up a ramp

 

[cladking]

water from a carbonated aquifer was used in linear funiculars to move and lift every stone.

This is an abstract and symbolic way of one of the many ways they described pyramid building;

"Osiris, in his name of seker, tows the earth by means of balance". Where my words must be parsed to have meaning their words lose their meaning when they are parsed. "Osiris" was the carbonated aquifer. "Seker" was the water from this aquifer once caught at 81' 3" altitude. This water was used in a linear funicular with its load being stones from the quarry which needed to be towed right up the pyramid.

They said this in many ways like "tefnut uses her arms to make the earth high under the sky". "Tefnut" is "downward" and her "arms" are the ropes slung over the pyramid which lift the stone.

You can't parse it. It means only what it says.

Science is preferable to superstition and superstition is what Egyptology provides.

 

[cladking]

Nah. Many men can easily move a block up a ramp

Bingo!! We have a winner.

 

[Jimmy]

Bingo!! We have a winner.

It’s rather obvious. I’m sure we could re-create how they did it.

 

[thebenbenstone]

why does The word 'Giza' sound similar to the word 'Geyser'? For example a source of pressured water presumably heated. If pressured steam can move a 'locomotive passenger steam train' pulling many tons of dead weight for example 'many carriage's along a man made steel track. Could pressured heated water be a source of energy to lift these stones? For example Old faithful from Yellow stone national park erupts on average nearly every 90 minutes.

 

[Jimmy]

It's remarkable people believe such things especially in light of the lack of evidence and illogic.

Are you aware that the word "ramp" isn't even attested from, the great pyramid building age? Egyptology has sold us a bill of goods by pretending the only thing consistent with what is known is ramps but the word is unknown from that era. We know the titles of the builders so there is a context but that context paints an entirely different picture because there were no stone draggers, no ramp builders, and no occupations whatsoever consistent with ramps.

Egyptology not only refuses to use basic science but they are telling us falsehoods.

While it was once believed the Egyptians left no record of how they built the pyramids, recent archaeological discoveries have revealed papyri documents detailing aspects of the construction process, particularly for the Great Pyramid of Khufu; however, these records are not comprehensive and likely only represent a small part of the overall construction process, possibly because documenting the exact methods was not considered important at the time, as the focus was primarily on the pharaoh's legacy and religious aspects of the building project.

The ramps were more than likely burned after or discarded

 

[cladking]

It’s rather obvious. I’m sure we could re-create how they did it.

Yes. We have the technology now to discover exactly how it was done but Egyptologists don't do science. They brag that they study the pyramids with their backs to them. Instead they parse ancient words using the "book of the dead" that was written 1000 years later. This is bad methodology on a Biblical scale.

 

[cladking]

why does The word 'Giza' sound similar to the word 'Geyser'? For example a source of pressured water presumably heated. If pressured steam can move a 'locomotive passenger steam train' pulling many tons of dead weight for example 'many carriage's along a man made steel track. Could pressured heated water be a source of energy to lift these stones?

I investigated this several times and have concluded it is probably coincidental or serendipitous.

The ancient word was "Mouth of Caves" or "Rosteau" because this was he place that water short right out of the mouths of caves.

1551a. To say: This thy cavern there is the broad-hall of Osiris N..
1551b. which brings the wind. The north wind refreshes;
1551c. it raises thee as Osiris N.

The caves raise "osiris" (the water source) in early summer when the wind switches from off the dusty hot Sahara to come from the north off the cool sea.

 

[Jimmy]

Yes. We have the technology now to discover exactly how it was done but Egyptologists don't do science. They brag that they study the pyramids with their backs to them. Instead they parse ancient words using the "book of the dead" that was written 1000 years later. This is bad methodology on a Biblical scale.

We don’t have to. Math has figured it all out.

 

[cladking]

why does The word 'Giza' sound similar to the word 'Geyser'? For example a source of pressured water presumably heated. If pressured steam can move a 'locomotive passenger steam train' pulling many tons of dead weight for example 'many carriage's along a man made steel track. Could pressured heated water be a source of energy to lift these stones?

There are two types of geysers. There is a steam geyser and a CO2 geyser. CO2 geysers shoot cool carbonated water high into the air. This water at Giza was simply delicious;

22a. This is thy cool water, Osiris; this is thy cool water, O N., which went forth from thy son, which went forth from Horus.

507c. effervescent, proceeding from leg and tail of the Great (One) who is in splendour.

1723b. when the great bread and this wine-like water were given to him.

This water was effervescent, cool, and like wine in that it was highly carbonated like Egyptian wine.

As the water shot out of the ground it was decarbonating rapidly causing calcium carbonate to accumulate all around the mouths of caves creating huge mounds they called the "primeval mounds" and then once they were removed they were called the "ben ben stone".

 

[cladking]

We don’t have to. Math has figured it all out.

Good one!

That math is pretty smart.

 

[Jimmy]

Good one!

That math is pretty smart.

It is. How many pounds can one man drag up a ramp at 51.5 degrees? I’ll guess 200 lbs. so that’s 25 men needed for a 2.5 ton block. Bingo! It isn’t that mysterious. 50 men and it would’ve been a cake walk.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Or aliens.

I've been following this thread with interest as an Ancient Astronaut theorist. Yes, I am an Ancient Astronaut theorist, and no, I won't argue or debate with others about being one. I also won't argue and debate about other Ancient Astronaut theorists, the Ancient Astronaut theory itself, or the television series Ancient Aliens. I resolved a long ago not to argue or debate with other people about my personal beliefs, opinions, or life experiences. Live and let live.

 

[cladking]

It is. How many pounds can one man drag up a ramp at 51.5 degrees? I’ll guess 200 lbs. so that’s 25 men needed for a 2.5 ton block. Bingo! It isn’t that mysterious. 50 men and it would’ve been a cake walk.

Are you aware there are 2 1/2 million stones? Apparently you don't know a man can't walk up a steep slope even without having to drag along a stone. You also are not aware that enough men to drag all these stones wouldn't even fit on the site. You are not aware that there is evidence that only a few thousands men, women, and children built the pyramid.

You don't seem to be aware of any of the evidence nor the nature of "ramps" you believe mustta existed.

 

[Jimmy]

Are you aware there are 2 1/2 million stones? Apparently you don't know a man can't walk up a steep slope even without having to drag along a stone. You also are not aware that enough men to drag all these stones wouldn't even fit on the site. You are not aware that there is evidence that only a few thousands men, women, and children built the pyramid.

You don't seem to be aware of any of the evidence nor the nature of "ramps" you believe mustta existed.

The pyramids were covered with a limestone casing to make the sides smooth.

 

[cladking]

I've been following this thread with interest as an Ancient Astronaut theorist. Yes, I am an Ancient Astronaut theorist, and no, I won't argue or debate with others about being one. I also won't argue and debate about other Ancient Astronaut theorists, the Ancient Astronaut theory itself, or the television series Ancient Aliens. I resolved a long ago not to argue or debate with other people about my personal beliefs, opinions, or life experiences. Live and let live.

I can certainly understand and sympathize. Believers look at everyone who doesn't accept ramps as some sort of alien life form squirming in mud.

That aliens did it is at least twice as likely than that stinky footed bumpkins did it with ramps. Actually I once built a case for alien involvement just to prove it makes far more sense than ramps that left no evidence and were powered by superstition. I say they were powered by superstition because in the old days Egyptologists used to argue with me and every time I'd win a point they would say I underestimate the power of belief that made the workers work in tandem.

Superstition is a destructive force. It is ONLY a destructive force and Egyptologists present it as the ultimate good that built the pyramids as we present greed as the ultimate good that makes the economy work.

Superstition kills which is why I'm in a hurry to solve this; superstition is going to kill us before we can even figure out how the pyramids were built. Superstitious Egyptologists aren't even looking and they quit talking to me 15 years ago.

Postulating that aliens did it isn't superstition. Saying it mustta been ramps is.

 

[cladking]

The pyramids were covered with a limestone casing to make the sides smooth.

If a man could walk up a smooth sided pyramid he would slide down. You can't walk up so steep a slope. You can't drag stones on slopes even approaching so steep.