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How do I know anything really exists?
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whereismynotecard
Treasure Hunter
Faith is trust, not knowing.
Tiapan
Grumpy Old Man
Reality is a subjective perception and can be influenced by innumerable factors, it is therefore amazing given the plethora of stimuli that everyday we wake up and realize that the furniture is still there, the door still opens, and the view out the window hasn't really changed from the day before. So our view of reality whilst variable is often correct and stable. Amazing really.
Cheers
Cheers
Comicaze247
See the previous line
By taking the Red Pill.
Peacewise
Active Member
faith
// (say fayth)
noun 1. confidence or trust in a person or thing.
2. belief which is not based on proof.
3. belief in the doctrines or teachings of religion.
4. the doctrines which are or should be believed.
5. a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
6. the obligation of loyalty or fidelity (to a person, promise, engagement, etc.): to keep or break faith with.
7. the observance of this obligation: to act in good or bad faith.
8. Theology that trust in God and in God's promises as made through Christ by which humanity is justified or saved.
phrase 9. in faith, Archaic in truth; indeed.
10. put one's faith in, to have every confidence in; believe in. [Middle English, from Old French feit, from Latin fides]
If we can never absolutely know that anything exists this Implies to me that we can never absolutely know that reality exists, which then of course leads to faith that it does.
Why does this take me back to the answer faith?
I know reality exists, and I have faith that it does. Is this contradictory?
// (say fayth)
noun 1. confidence or trust in a person or thing.
2. belief which is not based on proof.
3. belief in the doctrines or teachings of religion.
4. the doctrines which are or should be believed.
5. a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
6. the obligation of loyalty or fidelity (to a person, promise, engagement, etc.): to keep or break faith with.
7. the observance of this obligation: to act in good or bad faith.
8. Theology that trust in God and in God's promises as made through Christ by which humanity is justified or saved.
phrase 9. in faith, Archaic in truth; indeed.
10. put one's faith in, to have every confidence in; believe in. [Middle English, from Old French feit, from Latin fides]
If we can never absolutely know that anything exists this Implies to me that we can never absolutely know that reality exists, which then of course leads to faith that it does.
Why does this take me back to the answer faith?
I know reality exists, and I have faith that it does. Is this contradictory?
You start off by knowing you exist...
Cogito, ergo sum...
Cogito, ergo sum...
BruceDLimber
Well-Known Member
I'm reminded of a math-professor friend of mine who used to say,
"How do I know I exist?"
According to him, the correct answer was:
"Who wants to know?"
Bruce
"How do I know I exist?"
According to him, the correct answer was:
"Who wants to know?"
Bruce
Just_me_Mike
Well-Known Member
I can tell you this. What does exist of you, is most likely not the true you, as that is discovered bit by bit each day each minute each second that passes.
We are born into a reality that is generally accepted as true reality, when in fact our carnal nature is completely repressed by the need to create societies and structure.
What lies beneath, may be gentle or may be savage. I can not tell.
Good luck...
We are born into a reality that is generally accepted as true reality, when in fact our carnal nature is completely repressed by the need to create societies and structure.
What lies beneath, may be gentle or may be savage. I can not tell.
Good luck...
nomadchild
Gone Sailing
"I think therefore I am."-Rene Descartes. You can interact with your environment. Your brain is processing stimulus that your nerves are transmitting to your brain. I think it would take some imagination to develop some theory other than accepted existence. We are taught that we exist from an early age, so we accept it unconditionally for the most part.
-Ian
-Ian
What does it mean for a thing to really exist? If you know what "really" is, and what "exist" is, then that's how you know things really exist.
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
I think therefore I perceive...
what descartes really should have said
essentially you don't
everythign is perception.
what is ice? it is water
what is water? it is a liquid
what is this liquid? it is a mix of hydrogen and oxygen
what is this hydriogen and oxygen mix? it is a collection of countless atoms
what are atoms? atoms are made up of atomic particles
what are atomic particles?...
etc.
You can't be sure that anything really exist, at least you cant be sure that you are PERCEIVING the existence of anythign correctly....
further:
A flower is seen differently by a pollinating bee as it sees via a different spectrum of light
Mr Cheese
Well-Known Member
I'm reminded of a math-professor friend of mine who used to say,
"How do I know I exist?"
According to him, the correct answer was:
"Who wants to know?"
Bruce
good one
Azakel
Liebe ist für alle da
Because all things exists. Even fake things. ^_^
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Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Because it does. And you're not an idiot.