How does homosexual activity benefit society?

[nekoboy]

But many highly motivated Christians have unsuccessfully tried to give up homosexuality. They did their best. What more could they do?

And many succeeded. Despite the fact that society tries to convince them that they couldn't.

Besides, arguing that something is natural does not mean it is right. Murder is natural. Cannibalism is natural. Crap eating is natural. Zoophilia is natural. Besides, zoophilia doesn't hurt anyone. Why are we forcing them to change? If gays can't change, then there is no reason to believe that kleptomaniacs, zoophiles, pedophiles, necrophiles, vorarephiles, etc can change.

 

[Agnostic75]

And many succeeded. Despite the fact that society tries to convince them that they couldn't.

I never told them that they couldn't.

Who could blame those who tried, and failed, which is the majority of those who tried?

Many homosexuals are healthy and happy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it?

 

[9Westy9]

And many succeeded. Despite the fact that society tries to convince them that they couldn't.

debatable

Besides, arguing that something is natural does not mean it is right. Murder is natural. Cannibalism is natural. Crap eating is natural. Zoophilia is natural. Besides, zoophilia doesn't hurt anyone. Why are we forcing them to change? If gays can't change, then there is no reason to believe that kleptomaniacs, zoophiles, pedophiles, necrophiles, vorarephiles, etc can change.

right is subjective, not objective

 

[JacobEzra.]

A better question is how does homosexuality harm society.

Btw that remark that ivf is crass because the women doesn't always know the donor is crass in itself. The same can be said of adoption. And I hope no one believes adoption is crass

 

[JacobEzra.]

And many succeeded. Despite the fact that society tries to convince them that they couldn't.

Besides, arguing that something is natural does not mean it is right. Murder is natural. Cannibalism is natural. Crap eating is natural. Zoophilia is natural. Besides, zoophilia doesn't hurt anyone. Why are we forcing them to change? If gays can't change, then there is no reason to believe that kleptomaniacs, zoophiles, pedophiles, necrophiles, vorarephiles, etc can change.

Hmm. Because homosexuality is exacty the same as the rest of your list

 

[nekoboy]

Many homosexuals are healthy and happy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it?

Healthiness and temporary "happiness" is not an indication of if it is morally correct. Many criminals lead healthy, and "happy" lives.

Hmm. Because homosexuality is exacty the same as the rest of your list

Nope, not the same, but the tendencies they have are every bit as strong as a homosexual's. Why would God let any of them be born the way they were, with zoophilic, pedophilic, or necrophilic tendencies? Why would He condemn them to hell before they were born?

 

[nekoboy]

A better question is how does homosexuality harm society.

Btw that remark that ivf is crass because the women doesn't always know the donor is crass in itself. The same can be said of adoption. And I hope no one believes adoption is crass

Adoption arises because of circumstances beyond anyone's control. Artificial conception is done on PURPOSE.

 

[InformedIgnorance]

Becoming an orphan may be an accident, however adoption is wholly within someone's control.

 

[nekoboy]

I will stop interfering with the issue of gay marriage eventually, but I still believe what I believe on homosexuality. People have their free agency, but I hope they take into consideration of the fact that it is a two way street.

 

[9Westy9]

Healthiness and temporary "happiness" is not an indication of if it is morally correct. Many criminals lead healthy, and "happy" lives.

and the morality you have is not the only correct and valid one

Nope, not the same, but the tendencies they have are every bit as strong as a homosexual's. Why would God let any of them be born the way they were, with zoophilic, pedophilic, or necrophilic tendencies? Why would He condemn them to hell before they were born?

because God either a) wasn't in control or b) is evil. I can't see any other explanation

 

[Father Heathen]

Fun fact - left handed people were once considered agents of evil and were persecuted as a result; Left-handedness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Just as many gay people have remained in the closet either living double lives or being homophobes who suppress their sexuality; left handed people were taught to do things with their right hand, so as to diminish their evil.

How do left handed people benefit society? They should be taught to overcome their left-handedness. It's an abomination in the eyes of god. Their "happiness" is not an indication that being left handed is correct, and if being left handed is okay then why not allow pedophilia, necrophilia and bestiality while we're at it? We shouldn't allow ourselves to be blinded by so-called "logic" and "science" when we have the primitive superstitions of ancient savages to guide us. Of course, we should made an exception for a paraphilia toward cartoon animals.

 

[9Westy9]

How do left handed people benefit society? They should be taught to overcome their left-handedness. It's an abomination in the eyes of god. Their "happiness" is not an indication that being left handed is correct, and if being left handed is okay then why not allow pedophilia, necrophilia and bestiality while we're at it? We shouldn't allow ourselves to be blinded by so-called "logic" and "science" when we have the primitive superstitions of ancient savages to guide us.

lmao xD. Very well done

 

[waitasec]

I will stop interfering with the issue of gay marriage eventually, but I still believe what I believe on homosexuality. People have their free agency, but I hope they take into consideration of the fact that it is a two way street.

what does that mean?

 

[waitasec]

Healthiness and temporary "happiness" is not an indication of if it is morally correct.

what does that mean?

 

[InformedIgnorance]

You have persuaded me good sir!

Indeed, left handed people are an abomination, that they are about 10% of the worlds population indicating a strong underlying cause within our biology, that their choice harms no one and that there is no cause for assuming that their 'choice' is in any way inferior non-withstanding; like homosexuality, the blemish of left-handedness should be removed from humans as soon as possible and those that refuse to do so of their own will should be beaten and broken until they change their tune, should they still refuse to integrate (and thus stop their wickedness) they should be separated from the good folk of society to prevent their immorality from spreading like a disease.

what does that mean?

Just because no one is hurt doesnt mean it is 'right'; is what that means.

Then he attempts to equate it to criminality... like two people of the same gender having consensual sex is as immoral as one person raping and murdering another.

At least that is what I would have said, but FH has managed to persuade me about left handedness being evil, so perhaps I should reconsider just how evil homosexuality is.... perhaps homosexuality is actually worse than a rape-murder.... how could I have missed that up until now?

 

[Agnostic75]

Healthiness and temporary "happiness" is not an indication of if it is morally correct. Many criminals lead healthy, and "happy" lives.

What indicates what is morally correct?

 

[nekoboy]

made an exception for a paraphilia toward cartoon animals.

If I had any such paraphilia, I would see a therapist.

 

[InformedIgnorance]

If I had any such paraphilia, I would see a therapist.

Die heathen! Neko-shoujo ftw!

 

[Agnostic75]

On the subject of changing, I personally believe that though Christ, we can change for the better.

Can an amputee get a new arm or leg through Christ, or is God only interested in humans' spiritual needs?

Healthiness and temporary "happiness" is not an indication of if it is morally correct. Many criminals lead healthy, and "happy" lives.

What indicates what is morally correct?

 

[9Westy9]

Die heathen! Neko-shoujo ftw!

I'm more of a yuri (shoujo-ai) fan myself