How Does the Existence of God Negate Darwinian Evolution?

[Skywalker]

If you do not pay attention why should anyone post to you. Go back and reread that post.

And you have to make up your mind, does your God lie or not? If you claim that Genesis and Exodus really happened you are claiming that God lied.

Believing that the details might be allegorical is different from believing that God lied.

 

[Skywalker]

LOL! That does not support your claim.

Try again.

This is another argument that can be refuted with a "So what?" Admit that you do not understand how this is an argument refuted by a 'So what/' and I will explain it to you.

The article mentions a baboon bone being in Lucy. There's no way that Lucy was an intermediate of apes and people.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Believing that the details might be allegorical is different from believing that God lied.

If you deny evolution you are in fact claiming that God lied. Do you believe the Noah's Ark myth?

 

[Subduction Zone]

The article mentions a baboon bone being in Lucy. There's no way that Lucy was an intermediate of apes and people.

LOL! Yes a baboon bone was found among Lucy's bones. How does that disprove her as an intermediate? Do you not see how brain dead this argument is?

 

[Skywalker]

LOL! Yes a baboon bone was found among Lucy's bones. How does that disprove her as an intermediate? Do you not see how brain dead this argument is?

The baboon bones show that Lucy was a hoax.

 

[Skywalker]

If you deny evolution you are in fact claiming that God lied. Do you believe the Noah's Ark myth?

I don't know about that but I believe that there is a holy God who created everything and made a way for everyone.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The baboon bones show that Lucy was a hoax.

Nope, and you made a giant error. The magazine article does not claim baboon bones.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't know about that but I believe that there is a holy God who created everything and made a way for everyone.

Then that does not mean that you should reject evolution.

By the way, do you believe the Noah's Ark myth?

 

[Skywalker]

Then that does not mean that you should reject evolution.

By the way, do you believe the Noah's Ark myth?

I don't know how literal the Noah's ark story was.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't know how literal the Noah's ark story was.

It never happened. It appears to have been inspired by a large local flood, but there was no need for an Ark. It did not affect mankind to any degree or animal life either. Nor was it a year long. It was copied by the ancient Hebrews from a Babylonian source.

 

[Skywalker]

It never happened. It appears to have been inspired by a large local flood, but there was no need for an Ark. It did not affect mankind to any degree or animal life either. Nor was it a year long. It was copied by the ancient Hebrews from a Babylonian source.

Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings have enough similarities that JK Rowling was influenced by Tolkien. Harry Potter probably has many details similar to other wizard stories that it isn't derivative of.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings have enough similarities that JK Rowling was influenced by Tolkien. Harry Potter probably has many details similar to other wizard stories that it isn't derivative of.

Rowling may have been partially inspired by those stories but she did not copy them. Can you tell me what sort of education that you have had? It is hard to try to know what to post when I have no clue as to what you should know.

 

[Skywalker]

Rowling may have been partially inspired by those stories but she did not copy them. Can you tell me what sort of education that you have had? It is hard to try to know what to post when I have no clue as to what you should know.

I used to read about Harry Potter all the time for years, and Lord of the rings to a similar extent, including the similarities between Harry Potter and Lord of the rings. I used to like star wars and reading about tv tropes.

 

[rational experiences]

Why do you think fossil evidence supports that ancient humans were mutated? Those fossils would have shown up by now after all of these years.

His story.

Male. Human. Group agreement by unnatural worded coercion. Invention science. Design machine.

Machine no reaction fake God. Taken from natural mass. The reactive planet.

Science says control of zero. Puts any form into machine. Mass or gas.

***..as he says magic.

Thinks by vision only. God the reactive state ended reaction.

Choice against God. Awareness. Vision only.

Says stone is removed. Yet stone remains constant.

Thinks after reaction sacrificed his blood and cells. God core heart radiation mass release. How etched patterns released underground fusion as attack on life.

Design. God by design fusion solid mass.

Design implanted.

Origin form time shift. Garden. Bound rooted into stone. Place for activated time shift. To lift off the earth.

Ground mass upheaval X squared blocks one cause effect. Radiated square cut unnatural. Earth erupts naturally rounded.

Science owned unnatural radiation mass.

Conversion history God body. God gases dealt naturally with reactive state. Not controlled was natural outcome dealt by mass itself.

Male psyche aware stone quotes stone gets put back.

Law stone says alter. Volcanic mass erupts leaks from overheated core heart. Moves into zero mass removed cold stone chambers. Collapse. Stone removed. Building carpenter.

Plate tectonics.

Volcanic mass replaces zero tunnel removed stone.

Volcanic erupted ground mass falsified science data for machine thesis.

Awareness in science psyche now lies.

Spiritual awareness natural in consciousness tells the truth.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

What are the gray areas and intermediates of animals and people evolving? Gradualness by definition involves gray areas and intermediate organisms.

And you have already been given several examples of such.

In the human lineage, intermediates between the common ancestor with chimps and modern humans would be species like australopethicus and homo erectus.

An intermediate between sealife and land crawlers, would be Tiktaalik - found by prediction in terms of location, age and anatomical features.

Not sure what you mean by "gray area" though. Likely some falsehood based on some misrepresentation of evolution.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Because if there is no change of kinds, then the process of evolution didn't happen because evolution insinuates one kind becoming another kind.

I have just told you that evolution "insinuates" no such thing. In fact it predicts the opposite.

Seriously, why do you insist on being wrong?
Could it perhaps be that you can only argue against a misrepresentation of evolution?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

By definition English has ancestors that are either gray areas or intermediates. Latin and Spanish have intermediaries too.

Yes. So do extant species.

You also don't seem to understand that the "intermediates" between latin and spanish, were their own proper languages also.

Just like Homo Erectus is its own proper species.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

If none of my ancestors were anything other than apes what about my primordial soup ancestors? Primordial soup to apes would be impossible there would have to be intermediates.

Eukaryotes?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Kinds is a unique type of being. Bacteria and animals and plants are all distinct from one another. Plants and animals and bacteria are so distinct that you can tell the kind instantly.

He asked for a workable defintion. ie, a definition that allows for taking any two random species and then use the definition of "kind" to objectively determine if they are the same "kind" or not.


The answer to his question can not be "well, it's obvious!"

Obviously, it's not obvious or we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Also, if it is indeed that "obvious", then you should have no problems with explain this very "obvious" thing.

Are you gonna?

You're not, are you?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

It would make more sense to at least see more intermediates where there wasn't a question about if certain species evolved. We have records about the existence of intermediate languages. There is Etruscan languages and extinct dialects of Italian.

Humans, chimps, bonobo's, gorilla's and oerang oetangs are all different "dialects" of Great Ape.
Homo Erectus, Australopethicus and Homo Neanderthalis are all extinct "dialects" of Great Ape.