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How does the story of Adam and Eve compatible with science?

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
Those human 'parents' are about 140,000 years apart. Google mitochondrial Eve and Y-Adam.
So this has been the only ‘evidence’ put forth so far in support of science that can be examined. As suspected it disappointed. A Nature article had the following sweeping statement and was full of guesswork like;

When the overall population size does not change (as is likely to have happened for long periods of human history), men have, on average, just one son. In this case, evolutionary theory predicts that for any given man there is a high probability that his paternal line will eventually come to an end.”​

Adam was told by God to go forth and multiply and had three sons as well as daughters. The account in Genesis suggests multiplication happened freely and readily with lots of sons born to men. With the ages lived to back then along with the commandment from God to procreate and the fact man needed other human company to live and survive shows the Bible to be more plausible than the science story.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
Wait a sec, DNA research world wide has proven that we're all descendants s of one woman and one man.
Maybe. But still, science says, we evolved from other species. Bible seems to say, Adam was made with clay at once.
What would say about this part?
And the fact that, human existed much longer than 6000 years ago.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
So this has been the only ‘evidence’ put forth so far in support of science that can be examined. As suspected it disappointed. A Nature article had the following sweeping statement and was full of guesswork like;

When the overall population size does not change (as is likely to have happened for long periods of human history), men have, on average, just one son. In this case, evolutionary theory predicts that for any given man there is a high probability that his paternal line will eventually come to an end.”​

Adam was told by God to go forth and multiply and had three sons as well as daughters. The account in Genesis suggests multiplication happened freely and readily with lots of sons born to men. With the ages lived to back then along with the commandment from God to procreate and the fact man needed other human company to live and survive shows the Bible to be more plausible than the science story.
Just because you do not understand the science that does not justify your scoffing at it. It is a lot easier to keep your ego in check if you remember that as dumb as it sounds to you that you cannot refute it.
 

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
Just because you do not understand the science that does not justify your scoffing at it. It is a lot easier to keep your ego in check if you remember that as dumb as it sounds to you that you cannot refute it.
I said it disappointed, as anyone would who’s interested in fact, never said scoffed. My ego is in check and I can refute your science when it is fact less guess work.
 
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InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
We know that we share a common ancestor with other apes. Remember, you are an ape.
Not only that. We all came from Mono Cells. And we are made of the substances all found in soil. So, we are soil really from physical point. But I believe we have a Spirit which is non-materialistic. In fact I believe, we are Spirits with a temporary body here.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Not only that. We all came from Mono Cells. And we are made of the substances all found in soil. So, we are soil really from physical point. But I believe we a Spirit which is non-materialistic
No, we are not "made of the substances all found in soil". That implies that we should have a very high percentage of silicon. In fact it should be second after oxygen. And we are nowhere even close to that.
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
No, we are not "made of the substances all found in soil". That implies that we should have a very high percentage of silicon. In fact it should be second after oxygen. And we are nowhere even close to that.
OK, every substance that is in our body, is found in soil. But earth has more substances than our body. So, our body is even less than earth.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Those human 'parents' are about 140,000 years apart. Google mitochondrial Eve and Y-Adam.
What's more they are only the last common ancestral individuals for those descended in an unbroken female or male line from them and when one branch of their descendants dies out a new Eve or Adam is defined. So they are not even fixed individuals.
 
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Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
He is talking about Y-chromsome Adam and mitochondrial Eve. Two individuals that never knew each other.

In fact he just refuted himself. One does not get to pick and choose just part of a scientific fact. Y chromosome Adam lived about 50,000 to 60,000 years ago. Mitochondrial Eve lived 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.
As of 2015, estimates of the age of the Y-MRCA range around 200,000 to 300,000 years ago, roughly consistent with the emergence of anatomically modern humans.[5] [source].
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
OK, every substance that is in our body, is found in soil. But earth has more substances than our body. So, our body is even less than earth.
It is just a foolish argument. The reality refutes the silly Adam from dirt myth since that does not predict the obvious. that the human body would have the same elements found on the Earth. It predicts the percentages and those are totally wrong.
 

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
Evolution is a fact. Your inability to understand that fact does not refute it. Now the big question is, are you willing to learn?
You’ve brought your twisted debate from the other thread. We humans have evolved from the real Adam and Eve in the Bible but we are not a new species and so your evolution theory remains unproven. Try not to confuse the two.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Thanks @Jayhawker Soule , Your updated date is in a quote and the reply button won't allow me to directly credit you with a quote of your post. That is based upon a more recent work than the one that I quoted and with the testing of more people they found that it extended further back. And it notes that it is still possible for Y Chromosomal Adam to have lived before the time of modern Homo sapiens.
 
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