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How does the story of Adam and Eve compatible with science?

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
And how did a fish come to walk on land if it didn't evolve? Do fish normally walk on land?
Are fish evolving now to walk on land? Again -- despite presumptions, there is no proof. OK, put another way, nothing beyond some figuring that these walking fish must have evolved from non landwalking fish. Look, as is often said, science comes up with new discoveries that make previous ideas change. But short of figuring that these walking fish must have evolved, there's nothing else to show or say that they really did evolve. As a result, since I believe that God personally made Adam and Eve, I go with that. God made them. I did not always believe that, but I see that life has shown me that mankind has vastly different cognitive and intellectual qualities from other creatures such as gorillas. Obviously we are far different from fish. But that's not the point. The point is that God can do anything and we (you and I) weren't around when the first humans (Adam and Eve) came to be. Based on what I see, it makes sense to me now that mankind is vastly different from other creatures. And yes, gorillas are vastly different from fish. But mankind (Adam & Eve) was said to have been made in God's image. Gorillas etc. are not said to be like that. Thus I stop for now, time is passing, nice chatting with you.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Well the messiah, when he comes, will be a man. Not sure what that has to do with evolution. It's not like the messiah is chosen because of natural selection. He is the messiah because he fulfills the messianic prophecies.
OK, I said I would stop, but this intrigues me. So you believe those prophecies and you do not think the messiah will evolve but will fulfill what the prophets wrote, do I have this correct about what you believe? (Good night again...hope to continue this perhaps later)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You really only figure they evolved. You don't know that. It is presumed they evolved. Or -- what?
No, "presumed" is an improper term. Is gravity presumed? We have more evidence for evolution than we have for gravity. Yet you do not seem to have a problem with that concept.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I'm not claiming a "walking fish" doesn't exist. I am saying there is not a shred of 'evidence' that it evolved. So far sharks remain sharks, salmon remain salmon, etc.
Why do you keep saying such foolish and false things? You have no excuse not to know the rules of evidence by now. There is endless evidence for it. Endless of the most reliable type of evidence that supports that.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Are fish evolving now to walk on land? Again -- despite presumptions, there is no proof. OK, put another way, nothing beyond some figuring that these walking fish must have evolved from non landwalking fish. Look, as is often said, science comes up with new discoveries that make previous ideas change. But short of figuring that these walking fish must have evolved, there's nothing else to show or say that they really did evolve. As a result, since I believe that God personally made Adam and Eve, I go with that. God made them. I did not always believe that, but I see that life has shown me that mankind has vastly different cognitive and intellectual qualities from other creatures such as gorillas. Obviously we are far different from fish. But that's not the point. The point is that God can do anything and we (you and I) weren't around when the first humans (Adam and Eve) came to be. Based on what I see, it makes sense to me now that mankind is vastly different from other creatures. And yes, gorillas are vastly different from fish. But mankind (Adam & Eve) was said to have been made in God's image. Gorillas etc. are not said to be like that. Thus I stop for now, time is passing, nice chatting with you.
Some may be, but once again you demonstrate that you do not understand evolution. There are no goals to evolution . Why do you keep making the mistake of thinking that there are?

And okay, God can supposedly do anything. Why do you believe that God is a liar? He obviously could lie if he wanted to, but when you claim that he is a liar, as you keep doing here, then why believe his other promises?
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Are fish evolving now to walk on land? Again -- despite presumptions, there is no proof. OK, put another way, nothing beyond some figuring that these walking fish must have evolved from non landwalking fish. Look, as is often said, science comes up with new discoveries that make previous ideas change. But short of figuring that these walking fish must have evolved, there's nothing else to show or say that they really did evolve. As a result, since I believe that God personally made Adam and Eve, I go with that. God made them. I did not always believe that, but I see that life has shown me that mankind has vastly different cognitive and intellectual qualities from other creatures such as gorillas. Obviously we are far different from fish. But that's not the point. The point is that God can do anything and we (you and I) weren't around when the first humans (Adam and Eve) came to be. Based on what I see, it makes sense to me now that mankind is vastly different from other creatures. And yes, gorillas are vastly different from fish. But mankind (Adam & Eve) was said to have been made in God's image. Gorillas etc. are not said to be like that. Thus I stop for now, time is passing, nice chatting with you.
The proof is the fossil record, as well as living transitional forms, such as the mud skipper. You laughed at the idea of a fish that could walk. I gave you a fish that could walk. "nuff said.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
OK, I said I would stop, but this intrigues me. So you believe those prophecies and you do not think the messiah will evolve but will fulfill what the prophets wrote, do I have this correct about what you believe? (Good night again...hope to continue this perhaps later)
all life is in a constant state of evolution. but generally speaking, yeah, the messiah will be a man. We are not talking about something that is going to happen 3 billion years from now.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Are fish evolving now to walk on land? Again -- despite presumptions, there is no proof. OK, put another way, nothing beyond some figuring that these walking fish must have evolved from non landwalking fish. Look, as is often said, science comes up with new discoveries that make previous ideas change. But short of figuring that these walking fish must have evolved, there's nothing else to show or say that they really did evolve. As a result, since I believe that God personally made Adam and Eve, I go with that. God made them. I did not always believe that, but I see that life has shown me that mankind has vastly different cognitive and intellectual qualities from other creatures such as gorillas. Obviously we are far different from fish. But that's not the point. The point is that God can do anything and we (you and I) weren't around when the first humans (Adam and Eve) came to be. Based on what I see, it makes sense to me now that mankind is vastly different from other creatures. And yes, gorillas are vastly different from fish. But mankind (Adam & Eve) was said to have been made in God's image. Gorillas etc. are not said to be like that. Thus I stop for now, time is passing, nice chatting with you.
Fish do walk on land. They are commonly called lungfish. Mud skipper as already mentioned and snake heads are such species of fish.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
all life is in a constant state of evolution. but generally speaking, yeah, the messiah will be a man. We are not talking about something that is going to happen 3 billion years from now.
Why do you say the messiah would be a man and not a gorilla or a woman??
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
all life is in a constant state of evolution. but generally speaking, yeah, the messiah will be a man. We are not talking about something that is going to happen 3 billion years from now.
Can evolution go back, I mean you say lungfish evolved, right? I suppose from a non lungfish . Maybe lungfish could evolve to non lungfish. If not, why not? What does theoretical science say about this? Yet you believe the messiah will come, in the form of a man. Not a woman. Or gorilla. Why do you believe that?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I ask if fish have been noticed recently to be evolving to walk on land entirely.
Given a few million years, sure. Anything is possible. We came out of the ocean onto land, I'm sure other species as well as those already who will evolve with the environment.

The ones we already see now can be regarded as being in transition.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I ask if fish have been noticed recently to be evolving to walk on land entirely.
That is a poorly asked question. Once again it assumes a goal. You could have asked if the forces of evolution could cause other fish to evolve to become land dwellers. To that the answer would be yes.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Can evolution go back, I mean you say lungfish evolved, right? I suppose from a non lungfish . Maybe lungfish could evolve to non lungfish. If not, why not? What does theoretical science say about this? Yet you believe the messiah will come, in the form of a man. Not a woman. Or gorilla. Why do you believe that?
Traits can be lost. Lungs existed in fish before our ancestors came out of the sea. In fact lungs may be more basal than gills.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Can evolution go back, I mean you say lungfish evolved, right? I suppose from a non lungfish . Maybe lungfish could evolve to non lungfish. If not, why not? What does theoretical science say about this? Yet you believe the messiah will come, in the form of a man. Not a woman. Or gorilla. Why do you believe that?
yes evolution can go back. evolution does not have a goal or direction. it is simply what happens when some mutations lead to great reproduction.

A good example of this are dolphins and whales which are mammals that returned to the sea, trading their legs for fins again.
 
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