How does the story of Adam and Eve compatible with science?

[Hockeycowboy]

Wait a sec, DNA research world wide has proven that we're all descendants s of one woman and one man.

That is interesting, isn’t it?!

The timelines are way off — to support the Biblical record, I mean — and mitochondrial Eve was first, supposedly thousands of years prior to Y-Adam — but I think what scientists have discovered, is the Biblical Eve, followed by the generations-later Noah. Who would be the father of everyone living now.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Wait a sec, DNA research world wide has proven that we're all descendants s of one woman and one man.

1. we don't know if this one man and one women were homo sapiens, or the first homo sapiens.
2. the one man and the one women didn't live even close to the same time. It is definitely not an Adam and Eve thing.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

That is interesting, isn’t it?!

The timelines are way off — to support the Biblical record, I mean — and mitochondrial Eve was first, supposedly thousands of years prior to Y-Adam — but I think what scientists have discovered, is the Biblical Eve, followed by the generations-later Noah. Who would be the father of everyone living now.

Scientists do not accept a Biblical Eve, or a Global Flood. These Biblical tales are simply not supported by the evidence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I already explained it to him. He simply doesn't care to listen. He is not interested in understanding.

He is a she. It is funny though. We often think of people that we agree with as the same sex as us and those that we disagree with as the opposite sex. For quite a while I thought that you were male. I hope that I am right now.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That is interesting, isn’t it?!

The timelines are way off — to support the Biblical record, I mean — and mitochondrial Eve was first, supposedly thousands of years prior to Y-Adam — but I think what scientists have discovered, is the Biblical Eve, followed by the generations-later Noah. Who would be the father of everyone living now.

Who cares about the myths of Genesis?

 

[Trailblazer]

Who cares about the myths of Genesis?

Christians.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

He is a she. It is funny though. We often think of people that we agree with as the same sex as us and those that we disagree with as the opposite sex. For quite a while I thought that you were male. I hope that I am right now.

Yes, I'm all woman.

I'm a product of my childhood. "He" is simply the default pronoun when we don't know. It's a bias I really wish I could leave behind, but the truth is, unless there is something about the nick that indicates a gender (such as it ending in the feminine "a") my brain just automatically puts them into the man box.

Heck, it was a long time before I could remember that Rival was a gal. LOL

 

[Subduction Zone]

Christians.

Do not conflate Christians and creationists.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Christians.

Do you not understand that only some Christians are creationists? Heck, even the Pope accepts evolution.

 

[metis]

In other words, many of various religions are involved in celebrating myths.

Like Christianity?

 

[Trailblazer]

Do not conflate Christians and creationists.

No, not all Christians are creationists but about half are.

More Catholics believe that humans evolved but God guided the process (45%) than believe in the creationist viewpoint (37%). Creationism is still the view that half of Protestants and other Christians (50%) hold, but it is not dominant, with 39% saying humans essentially evolved with God's guidance.May 22, 2017

In U.S., Belief in Creationist View of Humans at New Low

 

[Trailblazer]

Do you not understand that only some Christians are creationists? Heck, even the Pope accepts evolution.

No, not all Christians are creationists but about half are. That is a heck of a lot of people!

More Catholics believe that humans evolved but God guided the process (45%) than believe in the creationist viewpoint (37%). Creationism is still the view that half of Protestants and other Christians (50%) hold, but it is not dominant, with 39% saying humans essentially evolved with God's guidance.May 22, 2017

In U.S., Belief in Creationist View of Humans at New Low

 

[YoursTrue]

Do you not understand that only some Christians are creationists? Heck, even the Pope accepts evolution.

I don't think he celebrates what some consider as a myth about Moses and the Jews in the wilderness. Maybe he does.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, not all Christians are creationists but about half are.

More Catholics believe that humans evolved but God guided the process (45%) than believe in the creationist viewpoint (37%). Creationism is still the view that half of Protestants and other Christians (50%) hold, but it is not dominant, with 39% saying humans essentially evolved with God's guidance.May 22, 2017

In U.S., Belief in Creationist View of Humans at New Low

The US is not the entire world. Acceptance of evolution is much higher in other first world countries. I do not know if there have been studies of countries that are not first world countries.

 

[YoursTrue]

Like Christianity?

Well, many consider Moses and the interaction with Pharaoh as mythical. As well as the sojourn in the wilderness. I don't know if Catholics celebrate the Passover. But many of various religions consider it a myth. I'm sure many celebrate Easter also, even though they do not believe Jesus died and was resurrected.

 

[Pete in Panama]

Wait a sec, DNA research world wide has proven that we're all descendants s of one woman and one man.

How so? ...

[from here w/ more info here]

In 1987, studies of mitochondrial DNA (which tracks maternal ancestry), suggested that all human beings were descendants of one woman who may have lived in Africa about 200,000 years ago. Similar research has been carried out on the Y chromosome of men (which tracks paternal ancestry), from various places, but here the estimates of research vary quite widely—from 60,000 years to 580,000 years ago. However, in 2013, a study published in the journal Science showed that almost every man alive today can trace his origins to one man who lived approximately 135,000 years ago, and that this ancient man was alive at the same time as the woman who his known as the ‘mother of all women’, providing evidence for an ancient ‘Adam and Eve’, popularly known as Y-chromosomal Adam and mitochondrial Eve.

It has to do w/ the math/probabilities of having children. we got some family names dying out w/ others probagating.

 

[Pete in Panama]

That is interesting, isn’t it?!

The timelines are way off — to support the Biblical record, I mean — and mitochondrial Eve was first, supposedly thousands of years prior to Y-Adam — but I think what scientists have discovered, is the Biblical Eve, followed by the generations-later Noah. Who would be the father of everyone living now.

Reading the Bible has to be done w/ a bit of care. If there were a literal "Garden of Eden", what language was everyone speaking? Like, if they were Turkish they would have called it Cennet bahçesi and if they were Russian it would have been Эдемский сад. It's gets silly unless we stop & think about where the story's coming from & how it can be useful to us.

 

[Pete in Panama]

1. we don't know if this one man and one women were homo sapiens, or the first homo sapiens...

What most of the scientific community understand is described above in my post #1,616.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

No, not all Christians are creationists but about half are. That is a heck of a lot of people!

Thank you for clarifying. I think you confused us by using the word Christian instead of the word creationist.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

What most of the scientific community understand is described above in my post #1,616.

The site you quoted is not a scientific site. By its own account:
"We’re the only Pop Archaeology site combining scientific research with alternative perspectives."

The fact is, Y chromosome Adam and Mitochondrial Eve did NOT live at the same time. Further, as I stated before, we have no idea whether they could be considered modern human (they might be a precursor) or if they are modern humans, we don't know if they were the first modern humans.

IOW they are NOT NOT NOT the Adam and Eve of Genesis.