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How Dumb Cops Create Danger

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's a big problem that a great many cops are poorly trained,
are ignorant of the law, & are sloppy...they just don't treat
their job as a profession to take very seriously.
With the power of life & death over us, this must change.

This thread is for examples of that.
In this case, cops start to break into the wrong house,
don't announce that they're cops, & they paint laser
sight spots on a civilian who thinks burglars are attacking.
Naturally, he defends himself. They prosecute him for it.
A jury finds him not guilty.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In this video, the cops are unaware of the law they're
supposed to enforce. Even after being informed of
his error by a superior, one very experienced cop
still doesn't understand.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't usually like to link reddit, but im not sure how to get the clip out of the interface. Sorry about that. This officer thinks he has found crystal meth...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected...s_from_a_vice_series_called_what_the_florida/
Yes, the infamous donut glaze case.
Cops saw the Krispy Kreme glaze, & were convinced it was meth.
One would think that cops would have expertise in this area.
This is perhaps the most massive incompetence case of all, eh.
Report: Cops mistake Krispy Kreme donut glaze for meth, arrest man
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Some years ago I was riding on a four lane road in town that has a speed limit of 35 MPH. I was riding about 20 MPH but I had the sense that some driver was tailing me for about a mile as traffic wasn't passing me through half my lane, but the whole other lane. Sure enough a cop pulled me over. He accused me of blocking traffic. Actually his 6 foot wide car was blocking traffic, not my 18 inch bike. Plus it's legal for cyclists rode ride on roads. He said I was violating the law because the road I was on was a designated state highway. Actually the law is that cyclists are banned for state highways ONLY if they are designed at interstate standards and 55+ MPH. This wasn't. Did I argue with him how he got two things wrong about the law? No. But I should have. He "let me go with a warning". I should have made him give me a ticket. That would have been fun in court.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Yes, the infamous donut glaze case.
Cops saw the Krispy Kreme glaze, & were convinced it was meth.
One would think that cops would have expertise in this area.
This is perhaps the most massive incompetence case of all, eh.
Report: Cops mistake Krispy Kreme donut glaze for meth, arrest man
Yes, the infamous donut glaze case.
Cops saw the Krispy Kreme glaze, & were convinced it was meth.
One would think that cops would have expertise in this area.
This is perhaps the most massive incompetence case of all, eh.
Report: Cops mistake Krispy Kreme donut glaze for meth, arrest man
Delighted to see you back in your old colors and the flag of Revoltistan at mast-top again!
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Some years ago I was riding on a four lane road in town that has a speed limit of 35 MPH. I was riding about 20 MPH but I had the sense that some driver was tailing me for about a mile as traffic wasn't passing me through half my lane, but the whole other lane. Sure enough a cop pulled me over. He accused me of blocking traffic. Actually his 6 foot wide car was blocking traffic, not my 18 inch bike. Plus it's legal for cyclists rode ride on roads. He said I was violating the law because the road I was on was a designated state highway. Actually the law is that cyclists are banned for state highways ONLY if they are designed at interstate standards and 55+ MPH. This wasn't. Did I argue with him how he got two things wrong about the law? No. But I should have. He "let me go with a warning". I should have made him give me a ticket. That would have been fun in court.
Nothing says the judge would have known the laws either. Or bothered to look them up. Especially in a small town where they know the cops.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Many cops aren't safe with guns.

DEA cop holsters his gun with his finger
on the trigger while lecturing school children
about gun safety. He shoots himself in front
of the kids.

Cop tries to reholster his gun with his
finger on the trigger. Shoots himself in stomach.

I like the news coverage....the gun "accidentally went off"
No...she accidentally shot herself.

Cop checks gun in pocket for safety by pulling trigger.
Shoots self in foot.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
And for @ChristineM....

The police sniper was aiming at a couple innocent
people (who survived their injuries) with his finger
on the trigger. Oopsies!
 

Suave

Simulated character
What upsets me more than a reckless/careless cop, is a dumb grand jury who fails to hold such a negligent police officer responsible for his manslaughter. Case in point,

"On January 18, 2016, Daniel Leetin Shaver of Granbury, Texas, was fatally shot by police officer Philip Brailsford in the hallway of a La Quinta Inn & Suites hotel in Mesa, Arizona, United States. Police were responding to a report that a rifle had been pointed out of the window of Shaver's hotel room.

After the shooting, the rifle, which remained in the room, was determined to be a pellet gun. Following an investigation, Brailsford was charged with second-degree murder and a lesser manslaughter charge and later found not guilty by a jury. In March 2018, it became known that the United States Department of Justice had reopened the case and was looking into a possible civil rights violation by Brailsford who was reinstated to the Mesa Police Department in August 2018, and then was granted retirement on medical grounds about a month later with a pension of $2,500 per month. Brailsford's lawyer has said that Brailsford suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder due to his shooting of Shaver and the resultant criminal trial."

Shooting of Daniel Shaver - Wikipedia

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Mesa Police Release Footage of Daniel Shaver's Shooting. He Was Unarmed.

 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This is an example of how cops are poorly trained,
& not held accountable when their carelessness
causes injury or death.
Lafayette police officer shot by fellow cop while serving warrant released from hospital | Fox 59
Excerpted (underlining added)...
While searching the apartment, police say Officer Kurt Sink instructed Officer Lane Butler to keep an eye on a large caged dog. Officer Aaron Wright then entered the apartment third and the moment he approached the dog cage, the dog reportedly knocked down the cage door.
Police say Wright quickly reached for the cage, then turned and accidentally fired a single shot, which hit Butler.
All three officers at the scene were wearing body cameras. After watching videos of the incident, a review board determined it was accidental, not an act of negligence.

If a civilian had shot someone accidentally, it would not
be treated so cavalierly. And if the civilian had shot a
cop accidentally, it would mean a long prison sentence.
But when cops shoot recklessly, it's just part of the job.

Watch the video to see that it's clearly negligence.
He had his finger on the trigger, & his gun pointed at
the fellow cop. This is the height of negligence.
It speaks to stupidity & carelessness of the entire
police force in Lafayette LA.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Cops still don't generally know that they need
a warrant to enter your property. This booboo
cost the city & insurance company $7,000,000.

The person was sought by cops for a week old crime.
There was no hurry...no exigent circumstances.
Plenty of time to get a warrant.
Cops didn't know or didn't care.
 

Suave

Simulated character
This is an example of how cops are poorly trained,
& not held accountable when their carelessness
causes injury or death.
Lafayette police officer shot by fellow cop while serving warrant released from hospital | Fox 59
Excerpted (underlining added)...
While searching the apartment, police say Officer Kurt Sink instructed Officer Lane Butler to keep an eye on a large caged dog. Officer Aaron Wright then entered the apartment third and the moment he approached the dog cage, the dog reportedly knocked down the cage door.
Police say Wright quickly reached for the cage, then turned and accidentally fired a single shot, which hit Butler.
All three officers at the scene were wearing body cameras. After watching videos of the incident, a review board determined it was accidental, not an act of negligence.

If a civilian had shot someone accidentally, it would not
be treated so cavalierly. And if the civilian had shot a
cop accidentally, it would mean a long prison sentence.
But when cops shoot recklessly, it's just part of the job.

Watch the video to see that it's clearly negligence.
He had his finger on the trigger, & his gun pointed at
the fellow cop. This is the height of negligence.
It speaks to stupidity & carelessness of the entire
police force in Lafayette LA.

How often are negligent/trigger happy cops held accountable for their negligence?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
How often are negligent/trigger happy cops held accountable for their negligence?
Very rarely.
Only a few cases actually reach the courts.

Cops have "qualified immunity", which is a powerful
shield for incompetence resulting in death or injury.
Federal cops have unlimited immunity from civil
suits. In another thread, I posted the case of a fed
cop who tried to murder a civilian. The victim could
not sue. The cop wasn't prosecuted or even fired.

On top of all that when cops investigate other cops,
they're inclined to let violations slide.
 

Suave

Simulated character
Very rarely.
Only a few cases actually reach the courts.

Cops have "qualified immunity", which is a powerful
shield for incompetence resulting in death or injury.
Federal cops have unlimited immunity from civil
suits. In another thread, I posted the case of a fed
cop who tried to murder a civilian. The victim could
not sue. The cop wasn't prosecuted or even fired.

On top of all that when cops investigate other cops,
they're inclined to let violations slide.

( **Suave loudly sighs **) We social justice warrior minded Democrats tried to get rid of the police's qualified immunity, but sadly Senate Republicans blocked that attempt at police reform.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's no wonder that so many cops are poorly trained.
In my state, the academy program lasts only 35 weeks.
Ref...
Criminal Justice Department at Ferris State University in Big Rapids Michigan
This is woefully insufficient for a person to become....
- Versed in the laws they're to enforce.
- Aware of their limited powers, & of the rights of civilians.
- How to address the various life & death situations they'll face.
- How to safely handle weapons.
- How to react in stressful situation, eg, physical force,
enduring criticism/abuse, addressing other cops behaving
criminally.

I'd expect that at the very least, 4 years of intensive training
would be necessary before a new cops is qualified to begin
on the job training.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This is a very interesting short video. The cops brutally
& needlessly beat this guy up. Watch carefully the handgun
used by the cop to pistol whip the victim. Notice how the
cop keeps his finger OFF the trigger while bludgeoning
the bloodied victim's head. This is good practice to avoid
an accidental shooting. However, the dumb behavior
here is that the cop knows nothing about de-escalating
situations.

Note however that this thread is about dumb behavior.
The fact that cops illegally beat people up for fun or
out of anger is a different issue for another thread
some day. Corruption & bullying are big problems.
 
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