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How Great is the Darkness?

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Human choice is not the light. In Jeremiah 10:23, it shows that human choice is meaningless. A mans way is not in himself, we are not born with the right spiritual direction, nor can we " Work it up within ourselves." Thats a christian fantasy. Its not in man who walks to direct his own path - meaning choice is not the light, its christian deception.

And I am no longer gullible to christian deception, I am free of it.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Now that I am free of certain religious influences, I can see more clearly how blind I am, and how much the Darkness fades into the human experience. Kind of strange; you have to be freed from a certain amount of deceptive influences, just to see the real prison you are really in.

Peace.
 

CarlinKnew

Well-Known Member
It's funny that we associate darkness with evil things due to our primitive genetic hardwiring. Darkness is bad because, at nighttime, we make easy targets for the hungry sabretooth.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
It's funny that we associate darkness with evil things due to our primitive genetic hardwiring. Darkness is bad because, at nighttime, we make easy targets for the hungry sabretooth.


I associate darkness with evil because of my advanced insight and elevated awareness on the subject. And the Darkness I am writting on has absolutely nothing to do with nighttime. I am advanced on it because I have lived in it 54 years and counting, so I am associated with it. I understand enough about it to know that its real power extended, is to keep a human from understanding its influence.

Keep them blind to it. And thats exactly what it has done. Thats why people comment on it like they do. " The Darkness, oh, its nothing." Don't pay it any attention.

This power is a real monster. Believe me, its a real deadly influence.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
This power is a real monster. Believe me, its a real deadly influence.

Peace.

I'll give an example of it; in the name of a religion, men flew planes into the World Trade Centers. Their religion didnot endorse this, but the Darkness infected their thinking, and made them do it in the name of their concept of the religion. Its the same Darkness that sanctions christians to believe in flying humans into an eternal firey pit of hell. Its the same Darkness that fueled Hitlers drive to wipe out the Jews. The same Darkness that looks to wipe Israel of of the map. The same Darkness that makes Americans think they rule the World.

And yet, people think the Darkness does not exist.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
In Job 38:17 God ask Job an interesting question;" Have the gates of death been revealed to you? Or have you seen the gates of " Deep Darkness?" In verse 16 he literally ask Job had he ever walked underwater. Interesting, because God defintely gives the impression that he has walked deep deep underwater on the earth, deep, where no man has set foot. In vs. 19 he ask;" Where is the way to the dwelling of Light? And Darkness, where is its Place?

Where is the place of Darkness, obviously men do not know.

And I want to get into that a bit.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
In Job 38:17 God ask Job an interesting question;" Have the gates of death been revealed to you? Or have you seen the gates of " Deep Darkness?" In verse 16 he literally ask Job had he ever walked underwater. Interesting, because God defintely gives the impression that he has walked deep deep underwater on the earth, deep, where no man has set foot. In vs. 19 he ask;" Where is the way to the dwelling of Light? And Darkness, where is its Place?

Where is the place of Darkness, obviously men do not know.

And I want to get into that a bit.

Peace.


The Darkness has many places, but the most powerful of it as it concerns humanity, is " Between your Ears." Your mind is the place of Darkness.

And I want to get into that.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
In Jeremiah 13:16;" Give glory to the Lord your God before he Brings the Darkness and before your feet stumble on the dusky mountians, and while you are hoping for Light, he MAKES it into Deep Darkness."

Here we can plainly see that God will bring the Darkness, and turn your hope for Light into Darkness. How you going to escape something like this? This is WHY I am in the Darkness, because God put me there. He has turned my Hope for Light into Darkness. I can relate to this scripture, I am presently living it.

God created this earth then brought the Darkness on it.

Peace.
 

CarlinKnew

Well-Known Member
I associate darkness with evil because of my advanced insight and elevated awareness on the subject. And the Darkness I am writting on has absolutely nothing to do with nighttime

Do you think you're the first to associate darkness with evil? No, darkness became associated with evil for the reason that I explained: we're afraid of the dark, because nocturnal beasts used to eat our primitive ancestors while they slept.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Do you think you're the first to associate darkness with evil? No, darkness became associated with evil for the reason that I explained: we're afraid of the dark, because nocturnal beasts used to eat our primitive ancestors while they slept.


Thats a primitive reason some are afraid of the Darkness, and the Darkness seeks to keep the human understanding of it just as primitive. More primitive humans were killed by beast during the day than at night. Your explinations of the Darkness are primitive, and I understand why.

Imagine yourself sleepwalking, then you walk to a lake of human waste, you jump in. Now your sleep swimming in a lake of human waste. You reach the middle of the Lake and for some reason you wake up out of your sleep. Now you must swim, conscious, back through the waste just to get to Land again. Then you reach Land and are walking back home, only to discover that the land is also infected with the waste. This is why I said I am advanced in the Darkness, and I never claim to be advanced in anything. The Darkness is the Waste, and I was sleepwalking in it. Then I swam in it, and then I woke up in the middle of the waste. I became aware of it.

Still in it, its all over me, all around me, and all in the Land, the Darkness is there. Its there during the Day, its IN the Light, it masqurades as the Light, it has nothing to do with day or night. It ruled primitive humans, it still rules modern humans.

Its the Darkness that makes you snap at others Carlin, its the Darkness that gives you your love for smerk humor. Its the Darkness that makes you favor always going on the offensive, always trying to correct others, as if you are qualified to do so. Its the Darkness that gives you favortism toward Cynical conversation. Its in you, it fuels your mind and comes out of your mouth, you say a lot of Dark things.

Its the Darkness. Its in you, and its in me.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Thats a primitive reason some are afraid of the Darkness, and the Darkness seeks to keep the human understanding of it just as primitive. More primitive humans were killed by beast during the day than at night. Your explinations of the Darkness are primitive, and I understand why.

Imagine yourself sleepwalking, then you walk to a lake of human waste, you jump in. Now your sleep swimming in a lake of human waste. You reach the middle of the Lake and for some reason you wake up out of your sleep. Now you must swim, conscious, back through the waste just to get to Land again. Then you reach Land and are walking back home, only to discover that the land is also infected with the waste. This is why I said I am advanced in the Darkness, and I never claim to be advanced in anything. The Darkness is the Waste, and I was sleepwalking in it. Then I swam in it, and then I woke up in the middle of the waste. I became aware of it.

Still in it, its all over me, all around me, and all in the Land, the Darkness is there. Its there during the Day, its IN the Light, it masqurades as the Light, it has nothing to do with day or night. It ruled primitive humans, it still rules modern humans.

Its the Darkness that makes you snap at others Carlin, its the Darkness that gives you your love for smerk humor. Its the Darkness that makes you favor always going on the offensive, always trying to correct others, as if you are qualified to do so. Its the Darkness that gives you favortism toward Cynical conversation. Its in you, it fuels your mind and comes out of your mouth, you say a lot of Dark things.

Its the Darkness. Its in you, and its in me.

Peace.



Heres a verse that just sums up everything I have been discussing. In Ephesians 6:12;" For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the Powers, against the " World forces of this Darkness", against the Spiritual forces of wickedness in heavenly places." This is the Darkness in a nutshell, a " World Force."

Many think we are just struggling against ourselves or others, against flesh and blood, they don't reconize the Darkness manipulating all these things. It even gets into our consciousness while we are asleep.

Its forcing us all to struggle with life.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Heres a verse that just sums up everything I have been discussing. In Ephesians 6:12;" For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the Powers, against the " World forces of this Darkness", against the Spiritual forces of wickedness in heavenly places." This is the Darkness in a nutshell, a " World Force."

Many think we are just struggling against ourselves or others, against flesh and blood, they don't reconize the Darkness manipulating all these things. It even gets into our consciousness while we are asleep.

Its forcing us all to struggle with life.

Peace.

As the Darkness creeps into the physce of humanity, it robs us of clarity, and looks to instill religion as the interpiter of the true gospel. Religion is no such thing. Its castrated confusion, designed by the Darkness to sheild humans from the promised Salvation that we all stand to inherit.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
I have seen this mourning the influence of white people trying to impress that Jesus was or is white, which is in total contridiction to Rev. 1: 13-15. Jesus color right now is " Bronze", which is Dark in Appearence. During his human life, when he had skin, he was a middle eastern man, he was not white. He came from the linage of David, who was a black man. He was more likely a Dark Skinned man, rather than this white bearded pictured man we always see.

This too is the influence of the Darkness, looking to cause confusion even in the simple race that Jesus was.

Peace.
 

Devotee

Vaisnava
hello,

whatever you have done in the past you have to forgive yourself, than ask for forgiveness from your deity. I had some major things hold me back from spiritual advancement, and when i became a devotee of Krsna, it all went away.

basically accept what you did, and realize that that moment has passed. stop letting this Darkness, which is really ignorance, consume your life. The followers of Krsna believe in 3 modes of material existence. Goodness, Passion, and Ignorance/Darkness. you have locked yourself in Darkness, and you have the key to let yourself out, and yet you refuse to use it. this is sad indeed. just accept what you have done and ask for forgiveness. and if you reply, its not that easy, or it wont go away, just remember that thats your desicion and nobody elses. you have the key to freedom, use it!

The Darkness is as powerful and as great as you allow it to be.

thank you.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
hello,

whatever you have done in the past you have to forgive yourself, than ask for forgiveness from your deity. I had some major things hold me back from spiritual advancement, and when i became a devotee of Krsna, it all went away.

basically accept what you did, and realize that that moment has passed. stop letting this Darkness, which is really ignorance, consume your life. The followers of Krsna believe in 3 modes of material existence. Goodness, Passion, and Ignorance/Darkness. you have locked yourself in Darkness, and you have the key to let yourself out, and yet you refuse to use it. this is sad indeed. just accept what you have done and ask for forgiveness. and if you reply, its not that easy, or it wont go away, just remember that thats your desicion and nobody elses. you have the key to freedom, use it!

The Darkness is as powerful and as great as you allow it to be.

thank you.


Well I fundamentally disagree with your philosphy. I do not believe humans hold the key to being released from the Darkness, no religion is a self improvement program, that is just your delusion. Being in the Darkness has nothing at all to do with forgiveness or self. The whole earth is in the Darkness, and everyone on it. No one had, or has a choice in the matter. As long as you breathe air, you are in the Darkness, and only God can release this planet from it.

He has not.

No religion can free you from it, Krsna has no power to free anyone from it. Krsna, as well as all other religions, is being used by the Darkness to keep people surpressed in a powerful delusion, which makes you think your free from it.

Peace.
 

Devotee

Vaisnava
Hello again!

im am saddened to hear this from you. you have a very negative view point spawned from ignorance and from what you just said, it seems you think there is no way out of this Darkness. im sorry that you suffer, but its not Gods fault, nor satans, nor Krsnas, nor Allahs. humans create there own suffering and until we all understand that we will never be free.

thank you.
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
I have seen this mourning the influence of white people trying to impress that Jesus was or is white, which is in total contridiction to Rev. 1: 13-15. Jesus color right now is " Bronze", which is Dark in Appearence. During his human life, when he had skin, he was a middle eastern man, he was not white. He came from the linage of David, who was a black man. He was more likely a Dark Skinned man, rather than this white bearded pictured man we always see.

This too is the influence of the Darkness, looking to cause confusion even in the simple race that Jesus was.

Peace.
Revelation 1:13-15, eh?

Revelation 1:15: His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters.

Continuing on from there, anyway: Revelation 1:16: In his right hand he held seven stars, and out of his mouth came a sharp double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

This is why you should not attempt to use poetic metaphors for interpreting the race of Jesus - from this, someone may also get that Jesus is white, for example. And really, does it matter if he was black, white, brown or even green?

The only people who care are people with racial issues. His message is far more important than his race, and deciding on a race for Jesus will only bring racists of that race to claim they are superior to the other. We have enough of that already in the world without trying to justify racial superiority because of a race Jesus happened to belong to.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Hello again!

im am saddened to hear this from you. you have a very negative view point spawned from ignorance and from what you just said, it seems you think there is no way out of this Darkness. im sorry that you suffer, but its not Gods fault, nor satans, nor Krsnas, nor Allahs. humans create there own suffering and until we all understand that we will never be free.

thank you.


Humans didnot create their own suffering, I certainly disagree with that. In Genesis 3:16 God cursed females to suffer when they give birth, that curse has not been lifted. I don't care what Eve did, it was not fair for God to curse ALL of the future generations of females to have to suffer, just because Eve did ONE thing that was a bad decesion. God CURSED females to be submissive to males, that suffering has not been lifted. God cursed males to sweat from working and be hurt at work, that curse has not been lifted. God did this.

It was God who planted the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, created it, established this confusion of the two different ways of life on earth. From this comes ALL the suffering on earth. God formed Adam and PREPARED him to suffer from this tree. Only God can release us from this suffering, and I want nothing to do with any religion that teaches differently from this truth.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Revelation 1:13-15, eh?

The only people who care are people with racial issues. His message is far more important than his race, and deciding on a race for Jesus will only bring racists of that race to claim they are superior to the other. We have enough of that already in the world without trying to justify racial superiority because of a race Jesus happened to belong to.


Thats why I don't like it when white people try to impress that Jesus was or is white.

Peace.
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
Thats why I don't like it when white people try to impress that Jesus was or is white.

Peace.
I don't like it when people attempt to get a race from poetic imagery in general, "white people" or "black people", or "green people". It makes no difference who's doing it, it's simply that they are doing it that's wrong.

Race isn't an issue here, so I don't know why you said "when white people" when it's not always white people who act this way.
 
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