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How Great is the Darkness?

mickiel

Well-Known Member
I can be told lots of things.


I think people who think overly about themselves can be told nothing, unless what they are told supports themselves. But that is another topic.

How can anyone understand God, and they do not understand Gods Adversary?

The Darkness.

Peace.
 

Scarlett Wampus

psychonaut
Darkness and spirit don't fear each other. They are well acquainted. Meaninglessness is what eats at them both.

Try staring into the void and see what it makes of darkness.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
I think people who think overly about themselves can be told nothing, unless what they are told supports themselves. But that is another topic.

How can anyone understand God, and they do not understand Gods Adversary?

The Darkness.

Peace.

God has to have an adversary?

Is there a get over yourself smiley?
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
God has to have an adversary?

Is there a get over yourself smiley?


It is you who have admitted to being in Love with yourself. You have claimed that you are all in all. And you have the sheer nerve to use your sick sarcasm on me.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
The Darkness is Gods Pivot point of suffering and total human blindness, thats why he created the Darkness. The Adversary. God had no enemies before human creation, he had to create the adversary. Isaiah 54:16, he created the Adversary. For whatever reason he wanted the creation of humanity to be infused with this Darkside.

I only wish I complettely understood why.

Peace.
 

Herr Heinrich

Student of Mythology
I would like to get some more information before I post my opinion.

First: this force pulling you to the Darkness. What does it feel like? How does it occur? Is it a calling in your mind?

Second: What do you consider sin?
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
I would like to get some more information before I post my opinion.

First: this force pulling you to the Darkness. What does it feel like? How does it occur? Is it a calling in your mind?

Second: What do you consider sin?


It is in your mind. It feels like your mind, it moves with your mind, its in you. How does something in you feel? It feels like you.

What do I consider sin? An offshoot of the Darkness.

Peace
 

Herr Heinrich

Student of Mythology
It is in your mind. It feels like your mind, it moves with your mind, its in you. How does something in you feel? It feels like you.

What do I consider sin? An offshoot of the Darkness.

Peace

I am still kind of confused. So would the Darkness be everything that Abrahamic religions consider evil?
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
I am still kind of confused. So would the Darkness be everything that Abrahamic religions consider evil?


What religions consider the Darkness is meaningless, because the Darkness covers over all religions, there are no exceptions.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Alright, but what exactly is the Darkness?


Well I encourage you to study the whole post, I covered that frequently. The Darkness is the power that exist on this earth, " Other than human". Of course many view us as being alone on this planet, I disagree with that. The Darkness is where Evil comes from, originated from and takes its reality as it influences humanity. It, like the wind, is an unseen Power, all most of us can actually see are its results.

Trees can be blown over, but some may not still believe in the wind, because they cannot see it. But you can " Feel It", and examine, like a track or print, its results. So it is with the Darkness, you can fell it and actually see its results. As with anything, the more you see it, the better you become at dectecting it, seeing it more. Which is why it is very difficult to discuss the Darkness with those who cannot see it. Those who do not think its real. Its the same problem when discussing God, one sees it the other does not, so they have difficult discussions.

The Darkness, as well as God, are excellent in masking themselves, keeping out of direct human view, but underneath, master manipulators of humanity. Confusion itself, is proof of this. Everything, I mean everything that is going on, on earth now, is a direct or indirect cause of the Darkness. It will use good or evil, sight or blindness, anything, to accomplish its root intentions.

Its root intentions is to spoil and destroy humanity, until there are none of us left. To cause as much suffering as it can, and bring that suffering to a horrible climax, while it has the time to do so. Because I don't think humanitys destiny is to always be in this Darkness. It willnot always be in existence. I, for one, certainly hope that to be true.

Peace.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
It is not a power, it is a part of our minds. I have "felt" it as well. It tries to draw me down into the mud, but always fails... well, it succeeds at times, and then I rise up again. I guess that dark part of us is stronger or weaker depending on who we are. In me it is quite strong, I just have a strong opposing force within me as well. But it is still within our minds, and if you feel it is controlling you I would urge you to discover a way to master it.
 

Herr Heinrich

Student of Mythology
Interesting. So it is basically what Abrahamic traditions call Satan.

Well I am a Taoist so all I will tell you there is an opposite to all forces, except the Tao which gives birth to the two opposing forces. Now yin and yang are different than God and Satan. The point is everything has an opposite force. So cultivate this force within yourself, make your will stronger than the Darkness. There are many ways to do this. Prayer or meditation might help with your focus or drive. Also a group of supporters is always good. Kerr even seems like a good person to start talking to about his struggle.
 

Herr Heinrich

Student of Mythology
What is the "alot of sin" in you?

I mean... are you SURE that what you are calling "sin" is really anything "bad" at all?

Are you going around murdering little girls?

Some religions peg so much stuff as sin, it's ridiculous.
The Darkness BTW is a place of rest.
Also creation and uncreation.
The Darkness is a wonderful place,
and there is NOTHING evil about it.

Unless you are infringing on others freedom to BE...
just BE YOU. and stop worring about it. ya know?


I would have to agree with her point about sin. Like I said before, what is sin to you?
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Interesting. So it is basically what Abrahamic traditions call Satan.

.


It has nothing to do with Abraham or traditions, you just keep " Wanting it to have something to do with this so called Abrahamic Tradition." The Darkness was created by God, kind of like the yen creating the yang. The Goodness created the Darkness, the force that was given to satan to rule.

The two most powerful forces, in which really one of the two created the other. Now that is interesting.

Peace.
 

Herr Heinrich

Student of Mythology
Firstly Abrahamic Traditions are Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.

Also this is from chapter 42 of the Tao Te Ching
The Tao gives birth to One.
One gives birth to Two.
Two gives birth to Three.
Three gives birth to all things.

The two is yin and yang. Yin does not create yang. They come from Tao.

As a side note I recommend reading Stephen Mitchell's interpretation of the Tao Te Ching it has some passages you might find interesting. Chapter one actually mentions the Darkness in a sense. It is online if you are interested. First website when you search Tao Te Ching on Google.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Firstly Abrahamic Traditions are Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.quote

And the Darkness has nothing to do with these three religions, or any other you care to list. The Darkness was conceived before human religion was.




The two is yin and yang. Yin does not create yang. They come from Tao.

.

I disagree, yin created yang. And only yin could have done it. And no one believes it. Good created evil, and Good is the stronger.

Although now it is not that way on earth.

Peace
 

Herr Heinrich

Student of Mythology
Yin and Yang don't just represent good/evil. They represent male/female, light/dark, aggression/submission, etc. Also Yin is darkness and female. It is the black of the yin-yang symbol. Yang is light and male. Lastly in the bible, from which you quote to near excess, it says God made Eve(Female, Dark) from one of Adam's(Male, Light) ribs
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Yin and Yang don't just represent good/evil. They represent male/female, light/dark, aggression/submission, etc. Also Yin is darkness and female. It is the black of the yin-yang symbol. Yang is light and male. Lastly in the bible, from which you quote to near excess, it says God made Eve(Female, Dark) from one of Adam's(Male, Light) ribs


I understand, I stand corrected. I mean to say, in your view of things, that Yang created Yin. First there was light, and it created darkness. First there was good, and it created evil. The male persona was first, then female came from it.

I apoligise for my lack of understanding your views.

Peace.
 
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