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How Great is the Darkness?

.lava

Veteran Member
By " Going into it", I mean examining it, studying it, expounding on it, and bearing witness to it.

Peace.

thank you for answering. turns out i completely misunderstood you. i agree. we need to know it well enough. since negative sources invites one part of us to sin (our egos), knowing it is also part of knowing ourselves. evil considered as the only enemy of human and we are commanded to know our enemy, so we study it too.

likewise, peace :)

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mickiel

Well-Known Member
thank you for answering. turns out i completely misunderstood you. i agree. we need to know it well enough. since negative sources invites one part of us to sin (our egos), knowing it is also part of knowing ourselves. evil considered as the only enemy of human and we are commanded to know our enemy, so we study it too.

likewise, peace :)

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I agree also. If you do not believe in God, it would be difficult to know Gods Adversary.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
As the Darkness moves over and over through the very air of this earth, it is unseen, but we can see the " Evidence of its existence." The sure tract of its influence on humanity. A passive approach to evil, comes from not believing in it properly. We inherited our imperfection from evil, our minds are constantly bombarded with it like radiation falling from the sky. Thats why you think thoughts that you don't want to think, crazy thoughts that seemingly invade your mind from nowhere.

Its the Darkness working on you.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
The way we place our hands into gloves, this is how evil enters into a human. Evil is " A Spirit", and it fits into a human like a glove. Its a natural fit, it combines its presence, with your presence. And stays as long as it can be worn.

And I want to get into that.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
The way we place our hands into gloves, this is how evil enters into a human. Evil is " A Spirit", and it fits into a human like a glove. Its a natural fit, it combines its presence, with your presence. And stays as long as it can be worn.

And I want to get into that.

Peace.

When we breathe in air, the air " Blends into our system, it takes up no space." A " Spirit entering into a human is just like that." The Spirit takes up no material space. Our Consciousness is a Spirit, and it takes up no space. It is not centrally located, its just there.

So it is with Evil. Its a Spirit, and when it enters, its just there. We can't see it, but we can " Feel its presence." When we do evil, its because evil has entered. When we think evil, its because the Spirit has entered and is influencing.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
When we breathe in air, the air " Blends into our system, it takes up no space." A " Spirit entering into a human is just like that." The Spirit takes up no material space. Our Consciousness is a Spirit, and it takes up no space. It is not centrally located, its just there.

So it is with Evil. Its a Spirit, and when it enters, its just there. We can't see it, but we can " Feel its presence." When we do evil, its because evil has entered. When we think evil, its because the Spirit has entered and is influencing.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

you mean like, evil spirits possess human body and make him do things against his will?

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mickiel

Well-Known Member
you mean like, evil spirits possess human body and make him do things against his will?

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Oh yes, defintely. So many times killers and maniacs have been interviewed and they spoke about things getting into their heads and influcing them to do these horrible things they did. But thats grad scale example, just dare to use yourself as an example. On a much smaller scale, like lying. When we lie, we are purposely looking to deceive someone or some situation. Instead of telling the truth, we are tempted to deceive, and passify ourselves in the deception, often telling ourselves its no harm done, its the right thing to do for yourself or someonelse.

At those moments, Evil has gotten into your Consciousness, and has deceived you, now it leads you to further deceive others. Thats what evil does, it breeds itself.

Peace.
 

fatima_bintu_islam

Active Member
You can and you cannot blame "the spirit" for the evil a person do,

In Islam, we call this "nafs ammara biso'" meaning that it is a part of your soul ordering you to make bad stuffs, on the other hand , you have satan cooperating (if u can say that :) ) with your soul against you to make you do very bad stuffs. So, we always seek refuge to Allah in order to help us against this force, hence the hadith of the prophet peace be upon him
Prophet said
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upon him peace: 1. "The mujahid is he who makes jihad against his nafs for the sake of obeying Allah.
- Ibn Hibban (#1624, 2519): Authentic;

nafs meaning soul , or soul desires. Mujahid meaning the fighter for the sake of Allah azza wajjal.

So at the end, its not a spirit that entered ; rather it was always there. :)
 

Agnostic75

Well-Known Member
mikiel said:
So many times killers and maniacs have been interviewed and they spoke about things getting into their heads and influcing them to do these horrible things they did.

There are secular explanations for that. In addition, if demons exist, no one knows who created them, and why.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
There are secular explanations for that. In addition, if demons exist, no one knows who created them, and why.


God created them, and he created them to destroy and disrupt and deceive humans. Isaiah 54:16, God speaks about creating a " Weapon for his work", Satan is that weapon, then he says he created " The Destroyer to Ruin."

God created evil to ruin humanity, its just that plain, but perhaps not simple.

Peace.
 

fatima_bintu_islam

Active Member
God created satan to test humans, wether they'll follow his evil orders or not. God is merciful, He cannot create something to ruin us.

Satan is not a weapon of his work, he was kicked out of paradise hence he decided to take everyone to hell with him, Allah created him with the wisdom of testing his creatures.

Whoever is able to resist will win :)
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
What is your evidence?


Well lets start with you, you are part of the evidence. You are blind to this, so why can't you see it? Because the darkness blinds you, and it does so because its there, and thats what it does. You are intelligent, alive, reasonable, and yet this bothers you, you are not ignoring it. Your intrest is part of the evidence.

Your Consciousness is part of the evidence. Is your Consciousness clear on this subject? If so why are you debating, your debate is part of the evidence.

Your Life is part of the evidence, the creator created you, you don't believe that, your denial of that is part of the evidence. A power has you in denial.

Your memory is part of the evidence.

Your belief system is part of the evidence.

Your whole lifes history is part of the evidence, you have a destiny, that even you can't see clearly. You can't,because the darknerss exist to cloud you.

Peace.
 

Agnostic75

Well-Known Member
Agnostic75 said:
What is your evidence?

mikiel said:
Well let's start with you, you are part of the evidence. You are blind to this, so why can't you see it? Because the darkness blinds you, and it does so because its there, and thats what it does. You are intelligent, alive, reasonable, and yet this bothers you, you are not ignoring it. Your interest is part of the evidence.

Your Consciousness is part of the evidence. Is your Consciousness clear on this subject? If so why are you debating, your debate is part of the evidence.

Your Life is part of the evidence, the creator created you, you don't believe that, your denial of that is part of the evidence. A power has you in denial.

Your memory is part of the evidence.

Your belief system is part of the evidence.

Your whole life's history is part of the evidence, you have a destiny, that even you can't see clearly. You can't, because the darkness exists to cloud you.

I will cut and paste what you and I said to my new thread at http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...istians-what-evidence-do-you.html#post1932699, and I will post a reply there.
 

Agnostic75

Well-Known Member
Agnostic75 said:
I will cut and paste what you and I said to my new thread at Message to Christians: What evidence do you have that the God of the Bible exists?, and I will post a reply there.

mikiel said:
Well I will not be posting on it, I am not a Christian.

Do you believe that Jesus physically rose from the dead, and was seen by hundreds of people after he rose from the dead? If so, where is your evidence? If not, what is your worldview? Do you believe that a global flood occured?
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Can you see your destiny clearly? If yes, can you please share with us?

Thank you :)


I am more than happy to share my destiny, it is the same destiny for all of humanity. So it is not a selfish destiny.

I am destined to be like God, its what " Mickiel" means, or Michael, one who is like God. I am destined to one day have Gods Holy Spirit, and oh how I long for that day. I am destined to leave this world behind, and to one day know my creator personally. I am destined to one day be strong, and no longer be a slave to sin.

I am destined to be a " Conduit" in this world, a medium for change. I am destined to suffer, then be strengthen and then be settled. I am destined to shed this flesh, and put on Spirit, although that frigthens me at times. I am destined to grow in the knowledge of God, and each passing year, even now, this is already occuring, I understand more as time goes on.

I am destined to live in the Darkness, until God releases me. I am destined to fly, even though now I can hardly jump. I am destined to lust, until God cleasens my mind and heart. I am destined to fall, but also destined to get back up each time. I am destined to see through people, as their thoughts become transparent to me.

I am destined to live without God, until my change come.

Peace.
 

Agnostic75

Well-Known Member
Message to mikiel: Do you believe that Jesus physically rose from the dead, and was seen by hundreds of people after he rose from the dead?

Do you believe that a global flood occured, and that the earth is young?
 
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