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How Great is the Darkness?

mickiel

Well-Known Member
The Darkness employs the darkside of man, it will uplift every thought in man that is against God, thats why Atheism thrives where it does. Thats why hate groups will never really die out, they have a constant supply of the Darkness to power them.

And I want to get into that.

Peace.


The Atheist crys for proof, proof that they cannot see anyway, because of the Darkness. No one can give another man sight, no one. Human beings are supporting causes that they do not see the Darkness behind. Christ died for us because we are helpless, Romans 5:6.

The Darkness, in order to deceive, props up the immagination and Pride in men, in order to smoothly deceive us. It leads us to believe that we are okay, everything is fine with our reasonings. This is why hate groups are so confident in themselves, they are dead wrong, but believe themselves to be right. Atheist are grossly in error, but think themselves somehow enlightened.

This is the seduction of the human mind in classic display.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Just look at this board everyday, its absolute proof of the influence of the Darkness. The confusion, the discord and dissagreement, the serious lack of unity.

All ingredients of the Darkness, all results from the Darkness.

And it will grow worse.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Do you have evidence in support of any of this? I really think you should get into THAT.

Otherwise this is all just so much insane rambling!


Oh theres plenty of evidence, lets start with you and I , both evidence of the Darkness. I live in the Darkness everyday of my Life, surrounded by Satan and his Demons, I fight. Although I am out numbered, overpowered, and no match for their strength, I rerfuse to give my Life to it by submission. The fight is real, because the Darkness is real. My battle is evidence of the Darkness, I have the wounds of its reality.

You on the other hand, have submitted to the Darkness and call yourself a Satanist, your submission is evidence of the Darkness, you have taken on its name, because of the realness your Consciousness shares with it. You are proof, you are evidence, you yourself have presented yourself as evidence.

And I certainly am going to go into you.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Oh theres plenty of evidence, lets start with you and I , both evidence of the Darkness. I live in the Darkness everyday of my Life, surrounded by Satan and his Demons, I fight. Although I am out numbered, overpowered, and no match for their strength, I rerfuse to give my Life to it by submission. The fight is real, because the Darkness is real. My battle is evidence of the Darkness, I have the wounds of its reality.

You on the other hand, have submitted to the Darkness and call yourself a Satanist, your submission is evidence of the Darkness, you have taken on its name, because of the realness your Consciousness shares with it. You are proof, you are evidence, you yourself have presented yourself as evidence.

And I certainly am going to go into you.

Peace.


The irony of it all, a satanist asking for proof of the Darkness. THAT is evidence within itself of the sheer power of the Darkness, even a Satanist is confused about it. Really Satanist have absolutely nothing to do with the Darkness, the real Satan takes no notice in them, no intrest in them at all.

And I want to get into why.

Peace.
 

Agnostic75

Well-Known Member
Message to mikiel: If a God exists, no one can speak for him except for himself, and that includes you. All other sources are questionable. You are quite presumptuous and arrogant. Who are you to speak for God?

When I was a Christian, I recall a case where a Christian told another Christian "God told me to tell you to give me a new car." The other Christian said "Well, he didn't tell me."
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Message to mikiel: If a God exists, no one can speak for him except for himself, and that includes you. All other sources are questionable. You are quite presumptuous and arrogant. Who are you to speak for God?

When I was a Christian, I recall a case where a Christian told another Christian "God told me to tell you to give me a new car." The other Christian said "Well, he didn't tell me."


I don't speak for God, and you can find nowhere that I have ever claimed I do. God has never spoken to me, I do not know God, I am not a religious man, and I am not a converted man.

I am a sinner, in search of his God, and I have not progressed beyond that point. And I have requested from you several times to take your questions to others. Ask others that you do not feel that they are arrogant your questions, why are you wasting your time with arrogant me?

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
The irony of it all, a satanist asking for proof of the Darkness. THAT is evidence within itself of the sheer power of the Darkness, even a Satanist is confused about it. Really Satanist have absolutely nothing to do with the Darkness, the real Satan takes no notice in them, no intrest in them at all.

And I want to get into why.

Peace.

Satan is not interested in Satanist at all, he has absolutely no intrest in them whatsoever. The intrest of the Devil, is focused on the believers in God, he waste no time on unbelievers, that makes no sense at all. He does not bother with Atheist, because he knows they all are already deceived, thats like a killer placing focus on those already Dead!

And I want to go into that.

Peace.
 

Vasilisa Jade

Formerly Saint Tigeress
One thing about my life I have regretably come to accept, is that I live my life in the Darkness. I had to leave the Church many years ago because I began to understand that I was different than them, I had a lot of sin in me, and it was in me to stay.

I think many of us know how you feel here. We all at some point, realized we did not belong in those religious groups. But see, here you show a sign of lack of self-control. This is not embracing the darker elements of your nature, it sounds like submitting to it, and with submitting to it, well.... it's different.

I was born with sin

Were you previously Calvinist? lol. Did you do something really bad when you were in your mothers womb? Maybe a demon in a past life? :D

and it ruled much of my life. It was also just as easy for me to believe in God, since my memory began, as far back as I can recall. I just always believed in God, that has never been an issue with me, its been easy. But there was something in me that was drawn to sin.

Sin? That's a very broad term, and different depending on who you talk to. It also connotes a sense of guilt associated with such things even though you seem to be trying to develop acceptance for it.

I could be totally off base.

The way it made me " Feel", the pull it had has always been more powerful than I.

Okay now I am pretty curious to know exactly what this sin was. If you don't mind sharing what all it was that is. I'm too tired to go back through the whole thread. If it's there I'll find it tomorrow.

Its just that when I was young, I didnot know what this " Darkness was." This " Thing inside of me", this influence that kept hurting me, rotting my sucesses and knocking me down. I didnot understand that this " Force" was indeed Great!

If it rotted your successes and knocked you down, I want to here more detail as to how this ended up being great.

I have not had the same experience with myself.... just curious.

In Matthews 6:23, Jesus himself gives an astounding teaching;"But if your eye is bad, your whole body is full of Darkness. If therefore the Light in you is Darkness, how Great is the Darkness!"
Therefore the light in you is darkness....

hmmmm......

Thanks for the interesting scripture.

If what is really leading you, is this Great Darkness, then the Darkness is your Master. Its what has you. And it has had me all of my life. It has never taken away my belief in God, but it has continually asserted its dominance over me.

Something about this tells me it's not good.... for you I mean.

I think you need to do something about grabbing ahold of your own reigns, imo.

I understand what the Great King David meant when he asked God not to let his sin have dominion over him.

But I wanted to give an inside view of this Great Darkness, because I live in it each day.

Peace.

I think you are on to something, and you should keep up the interesting inward thought. I'd study a bit about the religious paths that work with darkness as well. It may help your mind mapping.

:)
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
If I may just say, to take this thread back to it's original topic a bit. There is nothing wrong with choosing the dark path over the light path, or even with taking the path between the two, balance. I think that the path between the two is best, and it's the one I personally travel. I know that it's good to be good and kind to people, but there are also times you must be harder and more stern. Sometimes silence will allow people to get away with truly detestable things. Imagine if people like Ghandi or MLK had never stood up for what they believed was right. What people often call "darkness" can be a great and beneficial empowering agent when utilized properly. Without darkness there can be no dawn.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
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Were you previously Calvinist? lol. Did you do something really bad when you were in your mothers womb? Maybe a demon in a past life? :D
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I was not previously Calvinist. I had no bad experience while in my Mothers womb, but she had one in her Mothers womb. My Grandmother was a full blooded American Indian, her last day in life was during a Tornado that ripped my Gradparents house apart, while they were in it. Both my grandparents were killed in this storm, but my Grandmother was 9 months pregnant with my Mother at that time. The rescuers got to my Grandmother in time to deliever my Mother alive, then my Grandmother died on the scene.



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Okay now I am pretty curious to know exactly what this sin was. If you don't mind sharing what all it was that is. I'm too tired to go back through the whole thread. If it's there I'll find it tomorrow.Quote

Sin is anything that God is against.


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If it rotted your successes and knocked you down, I want to here more detail as to how this ended up being great.Quote

The Darkness is Great, nothing about me ended up Great.




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Something about this tells me it's not good.... for you I mean.Quote

I don't think its good for anyone, now. But later I hope it will be revealed to have been good for us all.



:)


Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
If I may just say, to take this thread back to it's original topic a bit. There is nothing wrong with choosing the dark path over the light path, or even with taking the path between the two, balance. I think that the path between the two is best, and it's the one I personally travel. I know that it's good to be good and kind to people, but there are also times you must be harder and more stern. Sometimes silence will allow people to get away with truly detestable things. Imagine if people like Ghandi or MLK had never stood up for what they believed was right. What people often call "darkness" can be a great and beneficial empowering agent when utilized properly. Without darkness there can be no dawn.


Well I understand and somewhat agree.

Peace.
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
I used to be one of those types who believed darkness or evil should never exist, when I was bound by the Abrahamic ideas about duality. You have to look beyond the bigger picture. People may not like something at the time, but in the end after it's all played out, it might have a good outcome. There is no good and evil in the Abrahamic sense, there is the moment, and the appropriate way to respond to the moment.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
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People may not like something at the time, but in the end after it's all played out, it might have a good outcome.


Well I certainly agree with this. Both Good and Evil are destined to have a greater impact on the creation of humanity than I think we can now fully comprehend.

Yet most focus on " The Impact as of Now", and that current focus throws them off in their futuristic view of Life.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
In the first chapter of the book of Job, an interesting thing about the nature of God is revealed. God will allow satan, or the Darkness, to be heaped upon humans. Let me set this senerio up for you. Satan has come to Heaven to speak with God, interesting that he was allowed to enter. Just as he was allowed to enter the Garden of Eden. The devil is " After Job", because Job was one of the very, very few sinless humans to ever have lived. The serpent is actually " Goading God", daring him to remove Gods protective layers from around Job. God agrees, but does not give him access to kill Job, which the devil would have done if he could. Further proof God controls death, not the Darkness.

Vs.12, God gives Job over to satans Power. And immediately the Prince of Darkness kills all of Jobs servants, kills all of his sheep, took all of his camels, killed half of his children and ensalved the others. Then he attacks Jobs health and makes him very sick.

See this is what the Darkness will do, THIS is the cause of ALL of humanitys troubles, this Darkness.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
The Jewish view of this is very different then the Christian view. In the Jewish view Satan would be doing in this scenario what God created him to do, being the advesary. Ha Satan means the advesary, advesary to humans, not to God. In Jewish view God created an advesary for people to sort of keep them in line, test them, and the like. You can also see in the books of Kings somewhere, where God used Satan to decieve Ahab to fall in battle. Satan became a lying spirit in the mouth of all Ahab's prophets, and God approved the plan.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
The Jewish view of this is very different then the Christian view. In the Jewish view Satan would be doing in this scenario what God created him to do, being the advesary. Ha Satan means the advesary, advesary to humans, not to God. In Jewish view God created an advesary for people to sort of keep them in line, test them, and the like. You can also see in the books of Kings somewhere, where God used Satan to decieve Ahab to fall in battle. Satan became a lying spirit in the mouth of all Ahab's prophets, and God approved the plan.


God most certainly must approve of satans doings, or he couldnot do what he does. Again Rev. 12:9 it calls satan the GREAT dragon, who deceives the WHOLE World! Jesus ask in Matt. 6:23, if you are blind to the Darkness, then how GREAT is the Darkness! Well its as GREAT as the GREAT Dragon Serpent Satan. Listen, most of us like to think we are educated and smart, and literally millions of humans who have lived and are alive, think like that. And yet this Great Prince of the Darkness has deceived us all!

One should wonder where have they been deceived, if you like to think you are excluded from this deception, then you willnot bother trying to find this deception in your life.

But once you look, after understanding this Dragon is real, you can begin to see the deception heaped on your own very Consciousness.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.
 
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