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How important to you think it is to understand the true role of Jesus Christ?

seeking4truth

Active Member
The person of Christ is vitally important to the contemporary world. His importance does not remain confined to the Christian world alone but also to other major religions such as Judaism and Islam in particular. If these powerful religions were to unite in one common understanding about the nature of the person of Christ, his first and also his promised second advent, then such an understanding would lead to the resolution of many problems confronting mankind today. Unfortunately, even the very basic facts about the life of Jesus, his purpose, ideology and person are completely misunderstood. In their perception of these aspects, these religions are so strongly at odds with each other that a bitter rivalry among them becomes inevitable.

Two thousand years have already come to pass, yet based on the scriptures alone, no solution, which could be equally acceptable to all, has been reached. The crux of the problem is that the very reliability of certain scriptural claims is further compounded by their various divergent explanations. Also, immense complications arise out of the gradual growth of conflicting understandings revolving around the historical person of Christ. The vision of a historic perspective generally tends to be fogged and obscured. By any standards, the passage of two millennia is no ordinary obstacle in perceiving events as distant as the time of Jesus. Human logic and reason, further aided by the dawn of scientific knowledge, has neither creed, nor colour nor religion. It is common to all peoples and religions alike. Logic and logic alone could provide us with a basis for consensus.

How important to you think it is to understand the true role of Jesus Christ?
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
The person of Christ is vitally important to the contemporary world. His importance does not remain confined to the Christian world alone but also to other major religions such as Judaism and Islam in particular. If these powerful religions were to unite in one common understanding about the nature of the person of Christ, his first and also his promised second advent, then such an understanding would lead to the resolution of many problems confronting mankind today. Unfortunately, even the very basic facts about the life of Jesus, his purpose, ideology and person are completely misunderstood. In their perception of these aspects, these religions are so strongly at odds with each other that a bitter rivalry among them becomes inevitable.

Two thousand years have already come to pass, yet based on the scriptures alone, no solution, which could be equally acceptable to all, has been reached. The crux of the problem is that the very reliability of certain scriptural claims is further compounded by their various divergent explanations. Also, immense complications arise out of the gradual growth of conflicting understandings revolving around the historical person of Christ. The vision of a historic perspective generally tends to be fogged and obscured. By any standards, the passage of two millennia is no ordinary obstacle in perceiving events as distant as the time of Jesus. Human logic and reason, further aided by the dawn of scientific knowledge, has neither creed, nor colour nor religion. It is common to all peoples and religions alike. Logic and logic alone could provide us with a basis for consensus.

How important to you think it is to understand the true role of Jesus Christ?

Absolutely vital! But what is even more vital is understanding who the Father is and coming to know the Father. If you know the Father, he will lead you to the correct understanding of who the Christ is.

John 6:41 Then the Jews began to murmur about him because he had said: “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” 42 And they began saying: “Is this not Jesus the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How does he now say, ‘I have come down from heaven’?” 43 In response Jesus said to them: “Stop murmuring among yourselves. 44 No man can come to me unless the Father, who sent me, draws him, and I will resurrect him on the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by Jehovah.’ Everyone who has listened to the Father and has learned comes to me.

Without 'knowing' the Father, its impossible to know the Son.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
I think this thread should be in the Christian DIR.
But in answer to your question

How important to you think it is to understand the true role of Jesus Christ?

I would say it is quite unimportant.

This is probably also part of the reason I think this thread would make more sense in the Christian DIR.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
The person of Christ is vitally important to the contemporary world.
okay/
His importance does not remain confined to the Christian world alone but also to other major religions such as Judaism and Islam in particular.
Hardly. Islam a bit, Judaism not really at all.
If these powerful religions were to unite in one common understanding about the nature of the person of Christ, his first and also his promised second advent, then such an understanding would lead to the resolution of many problems confronting mankind today.
Why? Why can't Xianity just remain separate?
Unfortunately, even the very basic facts about the life of Jesus, his purpose, ideology and person are completely misunderstood. In their perception of these aspects, these religions are so strongly at odds with each other that a bitter rivalry among them becomes inevitable
.False/ Most of the time there is no problem between Jews and Xians. Islam is a 'converting' religion so the issues are there with islam and Xians, but not always.

Two thousand years have already come to pass, yet based on the scriptures alone, no solution, which could be equally acceptable to all, has been reached. The crux of the problem is that the very reliability of certain scriptural claims is further compounded by their various divergent explanations. Also, immense complications arise out of the gradual growth of conflicting understandings revolving around the historical person of Christ. The vision of a historic perspective generally tends to be fogged and obscured. By any standards, the passage of two millennia is no ordinary obstacle in perceiving events as distant as the time of Jesus. Human logic and reason, further aided by the dawn of scientific knowledge, has neither creed, nor colour nor religion. It is common to all peoples and religions alike. Logic and logic alone could provide us with a basis for consensus.
There's no ambiguity about what it states in the bible. The ambiguity is in interpretation/
How important to you think it is to understand the true role of Jesus Christ?
No idea. Depends on your beliefs and interpretation, even your upbringing.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
The person of Christ is vitally important to the contemporary world.

Not really.

His importance does not remain confined to the Christian world alone but also to other major religions such as Judaism and Islam in particular.

Not really, either. Judaism rarely seems to even wish Jesus to be remembered. Islam arguably made it so that Jesus would be remembered, not the other way around.


If these powerful religions were to unite in one common understanding about the nature of the person of Christ,

That in and of itself would be a miracle. Perhaps the most significant one in all of History.

his first and also his promised second advent, then such an understanding would lead to the resolution of many problems confronting mankind today.

Perhaps; but that would be both arguable and expensive from the point of view of those religions.

Were it to happen at all. Which it is not.

Unfortunately, even the very basic facts about the life of Jesus, his purpose, ideology and person are completely misunderstood. In their perception of these aspects, these religions are so strongly at odds with each other that a bitter rivalry among them becomes inevitable.

And often enough is the actual point of their existence.

Two thousand years have already come to pass, yet based on the scriptures alone, no solution, which could be equally acceptable to all, has been reached. The crux of the problem is that the very reliability of certain scriptural claims is further compounded by their various divergent explanations. Also, immense complications arise out of the gradual growth of conflicting understandings revolving around the historical person of Christ. The vision of a historic perspective generally tends to be fogged and obscured. By any standards, the passage of two millennia is no ordinary obstacle in perceiving events as distant as the time of Jesus. Human logic and reason, further aided by the dawn of scientific knowledge, has neither creed, nor colour nor religion. It is common to all peoples and religions alike. Logic and logic alone could provide us with a basis for consensus.

How important to you think it is to understand the true role of Jesus Christ?

Not at all. Or are you talking about the myth itself? Even if so, the answer is "as much as the political and social situation expect you to make it look like".
 

seeking4truth

Active Member
Based on what?

Based on the idea that different religious groups that have responded differently to Jesus and their differences have been blamed for much injustice and hatred over the centuries.
In some countries even today the differences in response to Jesus are being used as an excuse for hatred, discrimination and division.
 

budhabee

Member
I am having a lot of trouble on the idea that he died for our sins. This is something that the catholic church made up so people would be afraid if they didn't believe it. And the more people who believe it and who gave money to the collection plates, the richer the catholic church would become. End of story. :yes:
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
How do we know that Jesus isn't an anthropomorphized deity?
A deity that was written about as a man.
Your question is supposing that a religion built up out of personality cult? Or what?
 
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Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
How important to you think it is to understand the true role of Jesus Christ?

I think it is not terribly important. I don't even know if it is important that he actually existed.

The affect of the story on the world is what it was. It changed the direction of western civilization. Doesn't matter if his "true role" is understood or even if there was a true role.

It's important to you because you've made it so. You are free to choose what is important to you aren't you? The role of Jesus is important to me. I am certain I've adjusted that role to fit my needs.

No one could possibly know the actuality of events that occurred 2000 years ago so why pretend otherwise?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The very fact that nobody can even come close to any type universal consensus about Christ, his divine nature, and his personhood speaks volumes regarding a very serious absence of communication that has afflicted Abrahamic religions that for some strange reason people fail to notice the actual circumstances as just as to why they remain perpetually confused and divided and cannot agree in any universal sense.

Could it be there is no Jesus which to base a role?
 

McBell

Unbound
Based on the idea that different religious groups that have responded differently to Jesus and their differences have been blamed for much injustice and hatred over the centuries.
In some countries even today the differences in response to Jesus are being used as an excuse for hatred, discrimination and division.

So you forgot the word "religious" in your description of which world Jesus is "vital" to?
 

Lyndale

Forgiven
Jesus's role is mostly irrelevant to my life, and only applies to it in moments of antagonism.


I believe the problem the world has with Jesus is *sin*.

Jesus is against sin and man wants to keep it.

~can't have it both ways, man likes that feel good feeling, that contradicts the laws of God- sad.
 
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