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How long was a day when the universe began

We Never Know

No Slack
Many arguments here about the bible and creation are about "a day". We all only know the concept of "a day" as we live our lives here on earth.

How long was a day when the universe became the universe?
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Many arguments here about the bible and creation are about "a day". We all only know the concept of "a day" as we live our lives here on earth.

How long was a day when the universe became the universe?
Usually time's speed is one second per second. That appears to be quite reliable. So, I suppose a day took about one day.

Ciao

- viole
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
So are you saying the length of "a day" is universal?
Always has been? Other planets would disagree.
A rotation of the earth is something we use as a measurement of time. A foot is always a foot. Do you think we would go back in time if earth started rotating the other way? :facepalm:
 

We Never Know

No Slack
A rotation of the earth is something we use as a measurement of time. Do you think we would go back in time if earth started rotating the other way? :facepalm:

:facepalm: As I said in the OP...

We all only know the concept of "a day" as we live our lives here on earth.

How long was a day when the universe became the universe?
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
:facepalm: As I said in the OP...

We all only know the concept of "a day" as we live our lives here on earth.

How long was a day when the universe became the universe?
A unit of measurement is a unit of measurement. A foot is a foot. It wouldn't be a foot if it wasn't a foot.
Let's say that I measured your height by having you stand against a wall and marking it with a piece of tape. If I moved the tape to a higher or lower position would you magically get taller or shorter?
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
My call is.... "How long was a day when the universe became the universe?" IOW the beginning

Who can say, when there were no planets spinning around their axes.

If we take the definition of day as a measure of the spinning of our planet today, that would be about 24 Hours.

Ciao

- viole
 

Misunderstood

Active Member
There are a lot of variables to get an accurate answer, and there are many arguments on the length of day at any given time. But one theory puts it at about 6 hours. The earth is slowing a little bit every year.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
A unit of measurement is a unit of measurement. A foot is a foot. It wouldn't be a foot if it wasn't a foot.
Let's say that I measured your height by having you stand against a wall and marking it with a piece of tape. If I moved the tape to a higher or lower position would you magically get taller or shorter?


A measurement depends upon a standard metric. You can’t take a measurement if there’s nothing to measure against. It seems the OP is asking what metric would be used to measure the passage of time, in the absence of the Earth’s progression around the sun?

To answer this question, it might first be necessary to determine what we mean by time, and space. And whether they exist at all, independently of human consciousness. In other words, what was time, when the earth was void and without form? Similarly, what was a foot, before two footed creatures walked the earth?
 
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Nimos

Well-Known Member
Many arguments here about the bible and creation are about "a day". We all only know the concept of "a day" as we live our lives here on earth.

How long was a day when the universe became the universe?
A day is based on each planet, not a universal 24 hour time :)

So the answer I guess would be 0 hours long :)
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
That is only because those people take the bible serious. Don't do that, it ends in absurd questions.


It leads to interesting questions, which only become absurd if you follow them to absurdity.

If this happens a lot, that’s probably because humans are intrinsically absurd.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
A measurement depends upon a standard metric. You can’t take a measurement if there’s nothing to measure against. It seems the OP is asking what metric would be used to measure the passage of time, in the absence of the Earth’s progression around the sun?

To answer this question, it might first be necessary to determine what we mean by time, and space. And whether they exist at all, independently of human consciousness. In other words, what was time, when the earth was void and without form? Similarly, what was a foot, before two footed creatures walked the earth?

There is always something to measure against, time is just a measurement from one point to another, you just need something that repeats itself more or less constantly such as an orbiting planet, if you want to measure it.

But in regards to the bible, I don't really think it makes sense to view the days as being different lengths compared to today. Unless Earth was in a completely different orbit back then, which I highly doubt. So a day in the creation story would be the same as today.

The same goes for a foot, it is just a name for a fixed length, but you could just take a random stick and then say that everything is measured based on that length. So a foot obviously didn't exist without humans :)
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
There is always something to measure against, time is just a measurement from one point to another, you just need something that repeats itself more or less constantly such as an orbiting planet, if you want to measure it.

But in regards to the bible, I don't really think it makes sense to view the days as being different lengths compared to today. Unless Earth was in a completely different orbit back then, which I highly doubt. So a day in the creation story would be the same as today.

The same goes for a foot, it is just a name for a fixed length, but you could just take a random stick and then say that everything is measured based on that length. So a foot obviously didn't exist without humans :)


Did the concept of measurement exist, before humans?
 
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