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How many gods then?!!

Mike182

Mike182

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roli said:
One God, one faith, one baptism,one LORD , but why are there so many doctrines, beliefs etc,contrary to the God of Abraham, Issac ,Jacob.
Because men have found and followed after other men who profess they are the latest revaltion of the truth and thus we have world relgions ,but no change in people's behavior ,nature and actions.
You pick your own god to be the one god if you choose, but studying the bible as a Christian for many years now, it is clear the judeo Christian God is the not the same God as the Muslim god, hindu, buddist, mormon,jehovah W, regardless of how determined one is to try and put the square peg into the round hole, the judeo Christian God is not the same God as the rest.
How can the gods be the same when, the doctrines ,teachings, prophets, etc are all different.
If there is one God and all these relgions are from him,he must be one confused being,who in my opinion, does'nt even deserve, nor bare the makings of a all knowing ,all powerful god.
He is certainly not meant to bring harmony,and clarity,to his followers, but on the contrary,that of confusion, war, decension,divison etc
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so we judge true religion on changing people's "behavior, nature and actions"?

ok, then my religion is true for me, because my religious conversion to Paganism from Christianity changed my life for the better. i was repressed, depressed and lonely within the Christian faith, and now the complete reverse. go truth!
 
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vandervalley

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One God, one faith, one baptism,one LORD , but why are there so many doctrines, beliefs etc,contrary to the God of Abraham, Issac ,Jacob.
Because men have found and followed after other men who profess they are the latest revaltion of the truth and thus we have world relgions ,but no change in people's behavior ,nature and actions.
You pick your own god to be the one god if you choose, but studying the bible as a Christian for many years now, it is clear the judeo Christian God is the not the same God as the Muslim god, hindu, buddist, mormon,jehovah W, regardless of how determined one is to try and put the square peg into the round hole, the judeo Christian God is not the same God as the rest.
How can the gods be the same when, the doctrines ,teachings, prophets, etc are all different.
If there is one God and all these relgions are from him,he must be one confused being,who in my opinion, does'nt even deserve, nor bare the makings of a all knowing ,all powerful god.
He is certainly not meant to bring harmony,and clarity,to his followers, but on the contrary,that of confusion, war, decension,divison etc
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Exactly.

if there is only 1 god then he/she is confusing us with his/her prophets and doctrines.
 
Don Penguinoini

Don Penguinoini

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But i think you should have the perception of the two types of god, the ultimate, one and only. And there is the god of thunder, wind, rain etc.
 
Mike182

Mike182

Flaming Queer
penguino said:
But i think you should have the perception of the two types of god, the ultimate, one and only. And there is the god of thunder, wind, rain etc.
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yes, and given that most of western theological thought over the last thousand years has been based on defining and defending/criticising monotheism, how do we define the Gods of thunder, wind, rain etc. what makes them "Gods" if they are not the ultimate God?

it's a good question for sure.
 
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vandervalley

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But i think you should have the perception of the two types of god, the ultimate, one and only. And there is the god of thunder, wind, rain etc.
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the ultimate god is no more than king of gods which is achievable by accumulating large amount of good karma. However even king of gods can't escape being born into hiuman or animals again because ur 'ultimate' god still has emotional disorder
 
Paraprakrti

Paraprakrti

Custom User
Mike182 said:
you didn't specify that at all, but fair enough.
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Well, it immediately follows that if God is the primary focus, then our growth/development is for that aim. Though I personally wouldn't use the terms "growth" and "development" because I view it as a case of revealing an eternally existing nature. In other words, we don't grow toward God, we strip away the illusion that covers the reality of our existence in relation to God.
 
Mike182

Mike182

Flaming Queer
Paraprakrti said:
Well, it immediately follows that if God is the primary focus, then our growth/development is for that aim. Though I personally wouldn't use the terms "growth" and "development" because I view it as a case of revealing an eternally existing nature. In other words, we don't grow toward God, we strip away the illusion that covers the reality of our existence in relation to God.
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ok, but all of that, given that there are so many religions, how are we to discern the truth?

simply, we can't. so people should choose that religion which allows them the most growth they personally. just my opinion anyway :shrug:
 
Paraprakrti

Paraprakrti

Custom User
Mike182 said:
ok, but all of that, given that there are so many religions, how are we to discern the truth?

simply, we can't. so people should choose that religion which allows them the most growth they personally. just my opinion anyway :shrug:
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I agree and I think people do that anyway. My point here is that whatever the truth is, it is ever-existing. It is not that we grow or develop the truth. It is simply there waiting to be discovered. I think we as individuals are part of that eternal truth and so our sense of growing or developing is just the language we use in material calculations.
 
Mike182

Mike182

Flaming Queer
Paraprakrti said:
I agree and I think people do that anyway. My point here is that whatever the truth is, it is ever-existing. It is not that we grow or develop the truth. It is simply there waiting to be discovered. I think we as individuals are part of that eternal truth and so our sense of growing or developing is just the language we use in material calculations.
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so why is this against polytheism? i see this as advocating pluralism, which ties in nicely with polytheism.
 
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