You must have a very forgiving understanding of what a "hitch" is.
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How often do theists believe they have evidence for God's existence?
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Shuttlecraft
.Navigator
Well Mercury, Venus, Mars etc all went up the spout but the earth is still going strong..
For now.
The idea that existence was "created", "meant to be" is simply not at all apparent in, well, anything.
You seem to be attempting to use the Anthropic Principle as an argument. I think it is fair to tell you outright that it won't fly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle
The idea that existence was "created", "meant to be" is simply not at all apparent in, well, anything.
You seem to be attempting to use the Anthropic Principle as an argument. I think it is fair to tell you outright that it won't fly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle
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Shuttlecraft
.Navigator
So the big question for all of us is whether this typical atom (and every other atom in the universe)-
1- Suddenly blinked into existence in the void out of nowhere?
2- Or did somebody create it?
3- Or has it ALWAYS existed?
4- Or is it an illusion and doesn't exist?
(have I missed out any other possibilities?)
Not necessarily a big question, but ok...
Who truly knows? Maybe it did.
Always a possibility, I suppose, although I very much doubt it.
Probably not as such. Atoms are, after all, formed of subatomic particles.
Who can tell?
None occur offhand, except for some composite hypothesis such as solipsism.
What would the fence represent? Certainty on one side, and a conflicting certainty on the other side, perhaps?
And unfounded certainty is no less shaky, just less careful.
Shuttlecraft
.Navigator
Incidentally when winding up one of his 'Sky at Night' TV astronomy programmes, Sir Patrick Moore said "People sometimes ask me what I make of the universes existence, and I reply 'Does it exist'? Goodnight"
He never elaborated in subsequent programmes, but my respect for him went up a few notches because until then I'd always thought he was just another astronomer, so I was impressed with his ability to think outside the box..
He never elaborated in subsequent programmes, but my respect for him went up a few notches because until then I'd always thought he was just another astronomer, so I was impressed with his ability to think outside the box..
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Unfounded?...did you say?
Then...let's go back to the beginning.....try to keep up this time.....
Substance first?.....of Spirit?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Choice....as posted a moment ago.
This tactic was irrational the first time you used it. At this point, it's just irrational and tired.
Do you even realize that you are making no sense whatsoever?
well... I don't understand why they care whether a person believes in God or not. Maybe they think that convincing people to believe would increase their faith, I don't know.
Atheism is a choice that must be respected like all the choices which don't harm others. Atheism doesn't harm anybody, so it must be respected.
I've never thought, actually, that Atheists are Atheists just temporarily
Freedom of thought, reasoning, logic, personal autonomy...I could go on for hours
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Can't decide?
It's one or the other.....
You either see Spirit first.....or substance.
I suspect you refrain as you can see the pending direction of thought.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
See previous post.
So no?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Too shallow.....choose.....Spirit first?.....or substance?
That just lacks any clear meaning.
No, it really is both: irrational and tired.
I see it just fine: "it looks like the universe had a beginning, therefore before the beginning of the universe, there must have been brainless minds." That's what you're saying, isn't it?