use_your_brain
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His Throne has nothing to do with the earthly water. That water is in outside of our space.
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How on earth can the Qur'an be considered the perfect book?
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muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
No .. what you have written is total BS. I'm sorry that you don't like 'the law' .. writing lies about Islamic history because of it is evil .. you should know better than that
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
I thought you were a christian .. showing your true colors now .. polytheism is better than monotheism?
Useless2015
Active Member
Lol arent 9 out of 10 IS leaders ex Baath members?
outhouse
Atheistically
I believe he told the truth
outhouse
Atheistically
Where outside of our space exactly is this water?
outhouse
Atheistically
Yes this mythology was plagiarized.
As did all other religions plagiarized it from flood/s on the Euphrates.
The Baath ideology of Saddam Hussein and his supporters is in some senses socialist - although I would rather call it nationalist or even Arabist - but how is that good news?
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
That's an inflationary remark. This is a good case of 'turning the other cheek'.
I'm aware of the world situation and how people might 'crack' .. on any side
Almighty God is with those who persevere with their worship of righteousness.
Augustus
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Interesting thing about this is that the tradition has the Muslims using Roman siege weapons during this encounter. This suggests that some of the troops were former Roman foederati, as Arabs had made up a large part of the Roman auxiliary forces for centuries.
Parallels here with the rise of the Germanic tribes on the edges of the Western Roman Empire.
outhouse
Atheistically
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
The thing is this .. my truth is to pursue righteousness and establish peace in a democratic fashion.
Your 'truth' is that Muhammad, peace be with him, is a fraud and a warlord ie. evil
Do you not like peace? Perhaps you'd like civil war in your own back yard?
Wisdom does not come from following evil
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Just so you know, that looks like a thinly-veiled threat.
outhouse
Atheistically
I follow the academic and scientific truth, KNOWN as the unbiased universal truth applied to all reality.
Yes
No
Are you really calling education and knowledge evil ?
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Well it was not meant as such. I use my common-sense. I know what human beings are like. Some behave like thugs, and beat-up each other in the street .. escalating into fully blown riots or worse.
I wish people could grow up .. whatever their religious persuasion.
However, I just have to look at history. Mankind love to blame each other.
Fortunately, I haven't got long to go in this world .. I thank God for that!
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Obviously not. Your 'education' is a very narrow one that brands the Qur'an as being a fake.
I don't think you are likely to be able to 'educate' many Muslims to come to the same conclusion.
You are deluded. You think you can tell people categorically what happened 100's or 1000's of years ago. Only Almighty God can do that. Our electronic/written records would naturally be unreliable over such a time span. Archeology can not prove a negative with a negative.
You might be able to convince yourself (and a few others) but the majority of the human race aren't stupid enough to draw conclusions in the way that you are
outhouse
Atheistically
Most people in the world call my remark truth, not narrow. Many people think narrow would be viewing an angel telling a prophet known plagiarized mythology.
GLOBAL encyclopedias claim islam TOOK previous mythology and claimed it as its own.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_mythology
Islam incorporates many Biblical events and heroes into its own mythology. Stories about Musa (Moses)[1] and Ibrahim (Abraham)
This states moses and abraham ARE islamic mythology.
gnostic
The Lost One
Sure Romans used siege weapons, but siege warfare have been around long before the Greeks and Romans.
In the Middle East, the Bronze Age Babylonian and Assyrian empires (during the 2nd millennium BCE) have been using siege warfare quite effectively, even though their methods and siege weapons were primitive at this stage in history. They were better at sieges during the Iron Age (1st millennium BCE).
The Greeks and Romans were better at siege warfare because of better technology.
During the reign of Dionysius the Great, a tyrant of Syracuse (in Sicily), in the early 4th century, (his engineers) invented many different types of siege weapons, which the Romans would later improve on.
I think you would have to remember, that before Muslims conquered and invaded Byzantine Syria and Persia, the Byzantine-Romans and Sassanid Persians were at war with each other for decades, and both sides were seriously weakened during 620s (Byzantines under Heraclius). The last war started in 602 and ended in 628.
Constantinople or Byzantium was under siege during 674-678, by the Muslims. The only reason why the weakened Byzantines managed to survive this siege, was not just because of their strong fortifications, but also because they possessed a strong navy, which defended the city and allowed them to get supplies in.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Perhaps you should ask the author of that statement about its intending meaning.
If they mean that the Qur'an contains the 'same myths' that the Bible has, it would be true.
If they mean that the Qur'an was copied by the Muslims, it might be true or might be false. Naturally, I believe that Muhammad, peace be with him, was a true prophet of God [ that would be my conclusion from a broad study of religious topics ].
I therefore CANNOT conclude that the Quran was copied from the Bible for selfish intentions by a small band of people ie. a handful of followers of Muhammad.
outhouse
Atheistically
You can read it yourself, we all did. And what it states is very obvious.
Islam incorporates many Biblical events and heroes into its own mythology
It states it TOOK previous mythology and added it to their own mythology.