How the chickens learned the need to sit on it's eggs ?

[Alceste]

What the smile benefits the species ?
Why we need to smile ? how it was evolved ?

Would you please rephrase your statement ?

Does smiling help in the survival and reproduction of the species ?

Yes. Social bonding behavior in general is beneficial because we are a social species. One of the advantages of being a social species is that a group can defend against predators more easily than an individual. Also, since human females are pretty much constantly in estrus, living communally offers an abundance of mating opportunities.

 

[FearGod]

Yes. Social bonding behavior in general is beneficial because we are a social species. One of the advantages of being a social species is that a group can defend against predators more easily than an individual. Also, since human females are pretty much constantly in estrus, living communally offers an abundance of mating opportunities.

Does Criminal behavior benefits the species ?

 

[Alceste]

Does Criminal behavior benefits the species ?

Laws, without which we could have no criminals, benefit the species by enabling and enforcing social norms, making our communities more resilient.

 

[Aquitaine]

Does Criminal behavior benefits the species ?

Let me guess...... Women being flirtatious and promiscuous with different Men is now a crime?

 

[FearGod]

Laws, without which we could have no criminals, benefit the species by enabling and enforcing social norms, making our communities more resilient.

We have many criminals around the world,does such behavior benefit the species in general.

Yes or no

 

[Falvlun]

We have many criminals around the world,does such behavior benefits the species in general.

Yes or no

That's like asking whether wearing blue jeans instead of kilts benefits the species. Laws are man-made, just like fashion. There might be good reasons to have them, but many of them are still pretty arbitrary.

And what might benefit society may not particularly benefit an individual. If stealing food allows a person to survive to reproduce, then the ability and proclivity to steal was indeed "evolutionarily" beneficial to that individual.

 

[Alceste]

We have many criminals around the world,does such behavior benefit the species in general.

Yes or no

We only have criminals where we have laws, and yes, the enforcement of social norms is beneficial to our survival.

In cultures that have not invented laws (for example, some indigenous cultures), social norms are still enforced, but there is less inclination to deviate from them.

 

[atanu]

An origin that is natural - i.e, not "super"-natural. A result of chemical and biological processes without inherent supernatural intervention.

When you cannot explain the origin of life how is it natural? Calling others asinine etc. will not help.

You're taking my words out of context, putting words in my mouth, and moving goalposts. I never said we KNEW the origin, I said we have VIABLE EXPLANATIONS FOR THEIR ORIGINS that do not require a God - and that's exactly what the hypotheses are. Now you're asking for a "perfect explanation" (again, this is a completely meaningless phrase), and for me to "demonstrate it". You seem extremely confused. I've explained my position very clearly, and twisting my words and making claims about my position are not helping to make you look any more honest. You clearly just over-reacted to something I said which you didn't understand.

So many words that mean very little, except that you have now brought in the word 'hypotheses'. BTW, I do not understand if you have a perfectly viable explanation for the origin (of Life and intelligence), then how could you not know the origin?

I simply asked you to explain your perfectly viable explanation. Now that you seem to accept that the explanations are 'hypotheses' nothing more is required.

 

[FearGod]

We only have criminals where we have laws, and yes, the enforcement of social norms is beneficial to our survival.

In cultures that have not invented laws (for example, some indigenous cultures), social norms are still enforced, but there is less inclination to deviate from them.

im not talking about the laws,i am talking the humans 400000 years ago.

Does criminal behavior benefit our species ?

 

[Alceste]

That's like asking whether wearing blue jeans instead of kilts benefits the species. Laws are man-made, just like fashion. There might be good reasons to have them, but many of them are still pretty arbitrary.

And what might benefit society may not particularly benefit an individual. If stealing food allows a person to survive to reproduce, then the ability and proclivity to steal was indeed "evolutionarily" beneficial to that individual.

Also, this whole debate tactic seems to be to think up some random attribute and demand someone explain it in evolutionary terms, but then instead of accepting or even trying to understand the answer, FearGod switches to some other random attribute that he thinks can't be explained. It's kind of a waste of time, but I'm happy to keep explaining.

 

[Alceste]

im not talking about the laws,i am talking the humans 400000 years ago.

Does criminal behavior benefit our species ?

Modern humans did not exist 400,000 years ago.

http:// http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution#section_2

 

[FearGod]

Modern humans did not exist 400,000 years ago.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution#section_2

OK,if you are very specefic then let it be 200000 years ago.
Does criminal behavior benefit our species ?

 

[Alceste]

OK,if you are very specefic then let it be 200000 years ago.
Does criminal behavior benefit our species ?

What specific behavior are you talking about? The laws we have invented that define what constitutes criminal behavior are pretty arbitrary, and the social norms they enforce vary from culture to culture.

 

[FearGod]

What specific behavior are you talking about? The laws we have invented that define what constitutes criminal behavior are pretty arbitrary, and the social norms they enforce vary from culture to culture.

Murder is a criminal behavior for all societies,before ,now and then.

Did criminal behavior benefit our species for survive and reproduction?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

When you cannot explain the origin of life how is it natural? Calling others asinine etc. will not help.

I said we have a viable natural explanation. Abiogenesis can explain the origin of life. You, again, are putting words in my mouth.

So many words that mean very little, except that you have now brought in the word 'hypotheses'.

Actually, you brought that word into the discussion by demanding I "not give hypotheses", which is like asking for a method of making a lasagne and then saying "but do not give a recipe".

BTW, I do not understand if you have a perfectly viable explanation for the origin (of Life and intelligence), then how could you not know the origin?

Because there's a difference between having a viable explanation for something and knowing for a fact that that explanation is true. I have repeatedly stated that.

I simply asked you to explain your perfectly viable explanation. Now that you seem to accept that the explanations are 'hypotheses' nothing more is required.

You do realize that a hypothesis is an explanation, right? It may not be a demonstrated explanation, but our current hypotheses remain viable.

Are you just playing word games, or are you intentionally misunderstanding just about everything I've said?

 

[Falvlun]

im not talking about the laws,i am talking the humans 400000 years ago.

Does criminal behavior benefit our species ?

A criminal is defined as "someone who breaks laws". If you have no laws, then you have no criminals.

 

[Falvlun]

Also, this whole debate tactic seems to be to think up some random attribute and demand someone explain it in evolutionary terms, but then instead of accepting or even trying to understand the answer, FearGod switches to some other random attribute that he thinks can't be explained. It's kind of a waste of time, but I'm happy to keep explaining.

I suspected as much. Have fun!

 

[Alceste]

Murder is a criminal behavior for all societies,before ,now and then.

Did criminal behavior benefit our species for survive and reproduction?

Yes, as long as we are killing each other for access to resources or mating opportunities. Many species fight and kill one another for access to territory or mates. In the end, we're all just trying to survive long enough to pass on our own genes. If that means killing our competitors, it's likely to occur. Thank heavens we invented laws to try to control such brutal inclinations!

 

[FearGod]

A criminal is defined as "someone who breaks laws". If you have no laws, then you have no criminals.

i am talking about murdering,lets be specific.

 

[FearGod]

Yes, as long as we are killing each other for access to resources or mating opportunities. Many species fight and kill one another for access to territory or mates. In the end, we're all just trying to survive long enough to pass on our own genes. If that means killing our competitors, it's likely to occur. Thank heavens we invented laws to try to control such brutal inclinations!

So in other words, we are all criminals that we are here today but thanks heavens that the laws controlled our criminal behavior which passed to us from our ancestors.