How women should treat men

[Riverwolf]

I'm a hetro who is not repulsed by the idea. I even experimented when I was younger. ultimately I learned I'm just attracted to females.

Exactly.

Just as there are asexuals who are sex-repulsed, and asexuals who aren't.

Heck, for a lot of my youth, I could have easily been described as sex-repulsed despite also being heterosexual.

 

[Father Heathen]

Reading the answers here, I've understood that it is intolerant, in your opinion, to expect women to be kind to men
(I don't think it's a big sacrifice, btw...but I get your point)

I am assuming that males here (not all, I hope) enjoy being treated awfully by women. Good for you

I had always thought that males enjoy being treated kindly by females. It was an ignorant assumption of mine, evidently

I think all people like being treated kindly but they should treat others kindly as well. No one should mistreat others nor tolerate being mistreated. Gender should have nothing to do ith it.

Btw, real italians conform to my totally arbitrary definition of a real italian, so put on your little plumber's outfit and hop down a pipe for me.

 

[Draka]

I'm intrigued with this idea that femininity means a specific way of acting. Dressing apparently as well. And that when women are not this exact type of "feminine" that that is what is causing "70%" of homosexuality amongst men. I find this interesting because, going by this, then the vast majority of men in Muslim countries must be gay. Now, is that what is being claimed here? Because it seems to me that the "femininity" described by Hay here goes almost directly against that of Muslim women. It is outright wrong for a Muslim woman to dress or act like that, especially in Muslim dominant countries. Therefore, by the "logic" (that term used so very loosely) displayed by the OP, Muslim men are vastly gay given the "un-femininity" of their women. Is that right?

 

[Revoltingest]

There is even a famous Italian scientist who is openly bisexual. He was married until 10 years ago. He clearly said that he became gay because he was tired of vagina .

I'm willing to take people at their word, but this is 3rd hand & anonymous, so I don't believe him.

 

[The Hammer]

okay...they were just curious straight people. that's what I meant by gay men who are not born gay

That's bicurious, and it is normal.

 

[dust1n]

Seriously, I am starting realizing that real gentlemen are people like Berlusconi, who at least can acknowledge female beauty. and reading the answers here I can't do but realize that what he said is right.
"It is better to be fond of beautiful women than being gay"

that's what he said. and people applauded him for saying that

Berlusconi... a real gentleman. How does he find the time between all the tax fraud and statutory rape?

 

[dust1n]

I expect even less.
Don't shoot, sue, rob or wallop me....then we're good.

Well, yea of course. Just because I expect people to act with common human decency, doesn't mean I'm not often disappointed.

 

[Deidre]

I enjoy being feminine. That is all.

 

[SomeRandom]

Btw, real italians conform to my totally arbitrary definition of a real italian, so put on your little plumper's outfit and hop down a pipe for me.

Is it bad that whenever I happen to be discussing Machiavelli I always say his name whilst gesturing like a stereotypical Italian?

 

[The Hammer]

I enjoy being feminine. That is all.

Nothing wrong with that if you enjoy it . I do too from time to time.

 

[Estro Felino]

Stereotypes are everywhere.
I really wanted to spare you this, but...do you really want to know what Italian women think of American women?
They think that most American women are either ugly butches or overweight "females"- and they laugh about them all the time.

I remember that my friend Monica recorded a video, when she went to Rhode Island. She and her friends laughed about all the fat girls of the video for weeks.
so....you see? Italian women are a bit wicked, but that's just because they think that woman's femininity is sacred.

If you are not feminine, you are socially banned

 

[Estro Felino]

. It is outright wrong for a Muslim woman to dress or act like that, especially in Muslim dominant countries. Therefore, by the "logic" (that term used so very loosely) displayed by the OP, Muslim men are vastly gay given the "un-femininity" of their women. Is that right?

It's just a cultural habit that's going to disappear, at least in Europe. In fact lots of Muslim men get married with European women, because they look better.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Italian scientist tired of V?
Maybe he wasnt straight at all.


A real straight man is never tired of V in general.
They could be tired of their wifes and their boring sex life. Marriage is not only about sex. Its about loyalty and trust. Sex will become boring after a while with same woman and her beauty fades away by the time. If u marry someone for lust, it wont last long. Cheating on the door steps.

Maybe men by nature are polygamous?

 

[crossfire]

Stereotypes are everywhere.
I really wanted to spare you this, but...do you really want to know what Italian women think of American women?
They think that most American women are either ugly butches or overweight "females"- and they laugh about them all the time.

I remember that my friend Monica recorded a video, when she went to Rhode Island. She and her friends laughed about all the fat girls of the video for weeks.
so....you see? Italian women are a bit wicked, but that's just because they think that woman's femininity is sacred.

If you are not feminine, you are socially banned

I don't associate with anyone with anyone who acts like this, even though I'm neither fat nor bad-looking. I'll be sure to steer clear of Italy if I happen to be travelling in the area.

 

[Ingledsva]

And I will say more. In the eyes of a true Italian, (and I am) a man who chooses a ugly fat woman over a thin sexy one, can hardly be considered a "real male".
I don't want to sound judgmental, I just want to express my view

LOL! So "real men" choose a body, over love? And hence end up miserable, and divorced?

But hay - meanwhile they can prance their party favor around before the other "real men."

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[lewisnotmiller]

Seriously, I am starting realizing that real gentlemen are people like Berlusconi, who at least can acknowledge female beauty. and reading the answers here I can't do but realize that what he said is right.
"It is better to be fond of beautiful women than being gay"

Wow. Where to start.
1) Berlusconi is what would be mildly called in my country a 'mad rooter'. The fact that he thinks with his genitals in no way suggests he is a gentleman. You must have the strangest definition of a gentleman I have ever heard. Or perhaps just an archaic one, I guess.
2) No-one here hasn't acknowledged feminine beauty. You seem to equate 'feminine' and 'beauty' as if they are a single thing though. For what it's worth, the woman in the video you posted was attractive, if not quite my type, in a physical sense. But in watching the video I wouldn't find her in the least bit attractive. If I simply wanted a sexual encounter, as per the former PM, perhaps her physical beauty would be enough for the night. I could then move onto the next similarly superficial woman the next night, right? By your definition this would make me appreciative of femininity, and a gentlemen. Bravo me.
3) Why you would post a derogatory comments towards gays as if it's a good thing is beyond me.

that's what he said. and people applauded him for saying that

People, as an entirety, are assclowns.
And as such, what they applaud for shouldn't be confused with an objective measure.

Germany, at the outbreak of World War 1.

 

[Estro Felino]

Wow. Where to start.
1) Berlusconi is what would be mildly called in my country a 'mad rooter'. The fact that he thinks with his genitals in no way suggests he is a gentleman. You must have the strangest definition of a gentleman I have ever heard. Or perhaps just an archaic one, I guess.

You judge him from a male perspective. Try to put yourself into a woman's shoes. Women like being appreciated for their beauty and their sex appeal. You can't even imagine how frustrating is, for a woman, to spend hours on her beauty and then not to receive compliments by men.
Berlusconi is the example of man who always compliments pretty women for their beauty. and this is gratifying for them. and men who do that are gentleman, in my opinion, that's all.

2) No-one here hasn't acknowledged feminine beauty. You seem to equate 'feminine' and 'beauty' as if they are a single thing though.

yes, they are one thing.

For what it's worth, the woman in the video you posted was attractive, if not quite my type, in a physical sense. But in watching the video I wouldn't find her in the least bit attractive. If I simply wanted a sexual encounter, as per the former PM, perhaps her physical beauty would be enough for the night. I could then move onto the next similarly superficial woman the next night, right? By your definition this would make me appreciative of femininity, and a gentlemen. Bravo me.

okay...it's not your type as life partner...but you would sleep with her.
with all due respect, but you make me assume that most men want unattractive women as wives and sexy pretty women as occasional mistresses

 

[lewisnotmiller]

You judge him from a male perspective. Try to put yourself into a woman's shoes. Women like being appreciated for their beauty and their sex appeal. You can't even imagine how frustrating is, for a woman, to spend hours on her beauty and then not to receive compliments by men.
Berlusconi is the example of man who always compliments pretty women for their beauty. and this is gratifying for them. and men who do that are gentleman, in my opinion, that's all.

Complete gentleman. Right up until he's bedded them, anyway. Ask him the girl's name a week later.

yes, they are one thing.

Rubbish

okay...it's not your type as life partner...but you would sleep with her.

No, I seriously doubt that. If I was really horny and really drunk I might. But if I look back at my life, I never have. Never been attracted to that sort of woman. Have very occasionally attracted that sort of woman, for some reason.

with all due respect, but you make me assume that most men want unattractive women as wives and sexy pretty women as occasional mistresses

Ridiculous assertion. I never once suggested physical beauty wasn't a component of what I found attractive in a woman. But it's far from the whole story, regardless of whether you're talking short term fling, or long term relationship. Attractiveness goes far BEYOND mere physical appearance. That doesn't mean physical appearance doesn't form any part of it for me. I like to respect the woman I am sleeping with, regardless of the duration of the relationship. I like to think it's because I respect myself, but perhaps I'm blowing smoke up my own arse.

 

[Estro Felino]

Ridiculous assertion. I never once suggested physical beauty wasn't a component of what I found attractive in a woman. But it's far from the whole story, regardless of whether you're talking short term fling, or long term relationship. Attractiveness goes far BEYOND mere physical appearance. That doesn't mean physical appearance doesn't form any part of it for me. I like to respect the woman I am sleeping with, regardless of the duration of the relationship. I like to think it's because I respect myself, but perhaps I'm blowing smoke up my own arse.

You know...actually by beauty I meant the soul beauty. The beauty of the soul is what make a woman feminine-
Maybe the whole thread is a consequence of the envy and disgust I feel towards my sister. She is the example of the absence of the femininity a woman should have.

All guys want her, but she's so aggressive and tough, that she would deserve to be lonely for the rest of her life. She always was aggressive and bossy with his boyfriend. And yet his boyfriend still wants her.

so I guess that men want to be treated badly. They want aggressive and bossy partners.

 

[Estro Felino]

Have very occasionally attracted that sort of woman, for some reason.

I bet that this Italian girl is not your type either.
By the way Elisabetta is the perfect example of woman's femininity. and she makes people understand how Italian women behave and what they look like.