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How women should treat men

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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
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Closet cases, open marriages and bisexual adultery do not demonstrate that straight men are changing their orientation because the women are too unfeminine or mean.

what about all those gay men who say that they have been disappointed on women so much that they prefer to stick to other men?

I've met so many of them
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
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what about all those gay men who say that they have been disappointed on women so much that they prefer to stick to other men?

I've met so many of them
That's a load of BS. on top of that I can tell you from my own first hand experience one can not choose to change their orientation. Its also normal to be curious.
 

gsa

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what about all those gay men who say that they have been disappointed on women so much that they prefer to stick to other men?

I've met so many of them

Then you are a magnet for a statistical anomaly, because I've never met a male with a more or less exclusively heterosexual orientation who flipped the switch because they've been burned by women.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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what about all those gay men who say that they have been disappointed on women so much that they prefer to stick to other men?
I've met so many of them

This is weird....must be an Italy (or Hay) thing. I run with a pretty gay crowd, & not one ever complained about women...unless these women work at the DMV. Moreover, they're quite friendly with women (just platonic). It's us heteros who carp about women (deservedly so).
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
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Then you are a magnet for a statistical anomaly, because I've never met a male with a more or less exclusively heterosexual orientation who flipped the switch because they've been burned by women.
I knew a few ergo tried aka experimented but it fails.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
That's a load of BS. on top of that I can tell you from my own first hand experience one can not choose to change their orientation. Its also normal to be curious.

okay...they were just curious straight people. that's what I meant by gay men who are not born gay
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
This is weird....must be an Italy (or Hay) thing. I run with a pretty gay crowd, & not one ever complained about women...unless these women work at the DMV. Moreover, they're quite friendly with women (just platonic). It's us heteros who carp about women (deservedly so).

There is even a famous Italian scientist who is openly bisexual. He was married until 10 years ago. He clearly said that he became gay because he was tired of vagina .
 

gsa

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I knew a few ergo tried aka experimented but it fails.

I don't think that sexual experimentation is in the same category as shifting to women. Hell, if disappointment in a gender was sufficient to switch sexual orientations, the world would be populated with gay men and lesbians and the Castro would be the straightest block of real estate in California.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
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That explains why lots of married men (with kids) secretly go chase young males in squalid gay bars.

Gay people are capable of having heterosexual relationships. Doesn't mean they actually are heterosexual.

Plus, bisexuality is a thing, you know.
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
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Gay people are capable of having heterosexual relationships. .

speak for yourself. I'd rather be tortured than having sex with women.

and I assure you that lots of straight men (thank God) would rather die than having sex with men
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
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speak for yourself. I'd rather be tortured than having sex with women.

and I assure you that lots of straight men (thank God) would rather die than having sex with men

I can't speak for myself on that matter because, as I said, I'm not gay. But I can speak for the real world, and not everyone who is of a certain orientation is repulsed by sex acts of others.

I'm heterosexual, and repulsed by the idea of engaging in sex with another man. Wouldn't say I'd rather die, though, and I don't think I'd thank any God that some people would.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
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I don't think that sexual experimentation is in the same category as shifting to women. Hell, if disappointment in a gender was sufficient to switch sexual orientations, the world would be populated with gay men and lesbians and the Castro would be the straightest block of real estate in California.
Oh I agree completely. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
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I can't speak for myself on that matter because, as I said, I'm not gay. But I can speak for the real world, and not everyone who is of a certain orientation is repulsed by sex acts of others.

I'm heterosexual, and repulsed by the idea of engaging in sex with another man. Wouldn't say I'd rather die, though, and I don't think I'd thank any God that some people would.
I'm a hetro who is not repulsed by the idea. I even experimented when I was younger. ultimately I learned I'm just attracted to females.
 
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