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"Humans are born as atheists"

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Which is contradiction if weak atheism is defined in terms to place them on a par with rocks and babies.

What would make it a contradiction?

Which is?...
Strong atheism is conscious and active. Weak atheism may be entirely passive and unconscious and is in fact defined by a lack or absence.

The first is a particular case of the second.
Weak atheism has no voice.
As soon as someone declares himself a weak atheist that is no longer true, and you know that.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
The definition of theist and atheist are not dependent upon the number of gods believed.
Which is why he is correct in his statement.

An atheist believes in no gods, therefore he is rejecting all gods.

People who reject most but not all gods are theists.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
What would make it a contradiction?
To use the analogy made in the video clip, the strong atheist would be two people on the jury at the same time: one who has formed an opinion and one who hasn't.

Strong atheism is conscious and active. Weak atheism may be entirely passive and unconscious and is in fact defined by a lack or absence.

The first is a particular case of the second.
A person conscious that they have rejected God or gods has a firm opinion about God or gods. I am arguing that having an informed opinion is not a particular case of having no opinion.

As soon as someone declares himself a weak atheist that is no longer true, and you know that.
I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about the concept, not any particulars.
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
To use the analogy made in the video clip, the strong atheist would be two people on the jury at the same time: one who has formed an opinion and one who hasn't.
You didn't even understand the analogy in the video clip... the strong atheist is the one who has formed an opinion the weak atheist the one who hasn't. Stop mixing up different analogies.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Which is why he is correct in his statement.

An atheist believes in no gods, therefore he is rejecting all gods.

People who reject most but not all gods are theists.
Rejecting ALL gods is not what makes someone an atheist. Neither is rejecting most gods what makes someone a theist.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
You didn't even understand the analogy in the video clip... the strong atheist is the one who has formed an opinion the weak atheist the one who hasn't. Stop mixing up different analogies.
I didn't mix those up, Artie.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Rejecting ALL gods is not what makes someone an atheist. Neither is rejecting most gods what makes someone a theist.
:facepalm:
Rejecting most gods doesn't make a person a theist; accepting at least one god does.

My point from before was that even someone who accepts one or more gods will often reject the existence of many other gods.
 
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