For those of us who apply logic, reason and common sense including the video maker there's no contradiction.
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"Humans are born as atheists"
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LuisDantas said:
" An atheist believes in no gods, therefore he is rejecting all gods."
Willamena said:
"Weak atheism has no voice."
Artie said:
"LOL many weak atheists have a voice....."
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How can one not-believe ??
There are no 'weak' atheists::::they are voiceless:::
They are 'us', the atheists amongst you:::
We do not believe in any of your 'gods':::
Hey Artie.....wake up !
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'mud
" An atheist believes in no gods, therefore he is rejecting all gods."
Willamena said:
"Weak atheism has no voice."
Artie said:
"LOL many weak atheists have a voice....."
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How can one not-believe ??
There are no 'weak' atheists::::they are voiceless:::
They are 'us', the atheists amongst you:::
We do not believe in any of your 'gods':::
Hey Artie.....wake up !
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'mud
Do you think you've heard about every god that humanity has believed in? How can you do anything more than "not-believe" in the ones you haven't even heard of?
Yes, it is.
Yeah, that's the problem, Artie.
Because "not stamp collecting" isn't a hobby.
Yeah. The problem is with you though, not us. Faulty logic and reasoning often leads to perceived 'contradictions' that only exist in the head of the person with the faulty logic and reasoning and if the person doesn't know the difference between correct and faulty logic and reasoning what can we do?
And no decision is required to be an atheist, why would classifying babies as such be irrational? The definition doesn't violate either the rules of grammar or of logic.
By "irrational" I assume you mean the concept isn't a useful one on most situations. That may be, but lots of philosophical distinctions aren't likely to be relevant in ordinary conversation. In this case though, the analogy is apt.
It's not only the subject of the thread, but it's a useful illustration of atheism as a default position.
Explain.
Which is... ?[/QUOTE]Which is a lack of belief in God.
There can be lots of subdivisions: People who reject God, people who ignore God, people who've never heard of God; but the one defining feature of all varieties is a lack of belief.
So, this thread?
I believe you fully. The whole thing is nonsensical. Yes.
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1. Since babies can be categorised as 'civilians', babies can be categorised as 'atheists', irrespective of the fact that babies have not even considered the matter?
2. Then, consider your own acceptance that a statement "I lack belief in love", implies a knowledge of what love is. So, a statement such as "I lack belief in deity", implies a knowledge of Deity and its rejection. So, there is a decision making involved. Babies and stones have not even considered the question.
I believe that for so-called weak atheists, who are in the same class as stones and babies. Right ho.
Wait-- are you calling me childish and hard-headed?I believe that for so-called weak atheists, who are in the same class as stones and babies. Right ho.
LOL of course a statement such as "I lack belief in deity" implies "I" have "knowledge of Deity and its rejection". I would be an atheist. The statement "HE lacks belief in deity" tells us that HE is an atheist. And HE might not even have heard of gods to qualify as atheist. The word atheist literally means "not theist".
It is truly non sensical. Weak atheists, babies, and stones are atheists in non-thinking mode. Ha. Ha.
Let us examine the anomaly for the last time. If you engage in stock broking, you are a stock broker. If you do not, you are a non stock broker. It pertains to action.
If you believe in deity you are theist. If you lack a belief or you disbelieve you are atheist. To lack a believe in 'X', you need to know what 'X' is. I will repeat. A statement "I lack love in life", implies a knowledge of what love is. It pertains to knowledge.
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It is funny. Whether the stone or the baby or the person that you are labelling as atheist has considered the question or not, in your eyes a stone is an atheist and so is a baby. That puts a self proclaimed weak atheist in good company.
Was this meant to be responsive to the post you quoted? It seems to be a non-sequitur.