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Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes

Aman777

Bible Believer
I understand there is saying in your bible about pearls and swine.
But I have found the most entertainent is to continue to toss you pearls.

Dear Mestemia, As usual, you have turned things around, and are calling good, evil and evil, good. It's not you who is throwing the Pearls, because you don't have any. It's you stomping them into the mud. That's why I avoid many of your posts, plus the fact that I hate bugs. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Dear Mestemia, It would be a lot easier IF I could get just ONE Evol to tell us the process by which we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes.

The same process as with all other animals: natural selection.
 

McBell

Unbound
Dear Mestemia, As usual, you have turned things around, and are calling good, evil and evil, good. It's not you who is throwing the Pearls, because you don't have any. It's you stomping them into the mud. That's why I avoid many of your posts, plus the fact that I hate bugs. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Please be so kind as to let me know when you have gotten yourself convinced.
Perhaps then you will be ready for an honest discussion.
 

The Neo Nerd

Well-Known Member
Are you aware that God tells us that He made Humans from the dust of the ground, on another world, and brought them to our Planet some 10k years ago, in an Ark and that Human civilization can be traced to that event? which History conirms?

I am interested in where in the bible it says this.

Thankyou,

-Q
 

Aman777

Bible Believer
The same process as with all other animals: natural selection.

Dear Riverwolf, Does natural selection produce Human intelligence in Apes? Since such a wild speculation cannot explain HOW or WHEN the prehistoric people of this Planet, inherited the Human intelligence of Adam, since Adam never stepped foot on this Earth. Inheriting Human intelligence from another Human Scientifically, means that ONLY the descendants of Adam are Humans.

Your "natural selection" is also subject to the limitations of Their (Trinity) kinds and of His (Jesus) kinds. Changes within kinds, in a population, over time, is what Science calls Evolution. Natural creatures (those who evolved from the water beginning some 3.7 Billion years ago) were created and brought forth from the water on the 5th Day Gen 1:21 because They (Trinity) commanded it to be so. IOW, Your natural selection was caused by God but Evols reject His Truth in favor of man's False Theories. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 

Aman777

Bible Believer
Originally Posted by Aman777
Are you aware that God tells us that He made Humans from the dust of the ground, on another world, and brought them to our Planet some 10k years ago, in an Ark and that Human civilization can be traced to that event? which History conirms?


I am interested in where in the bible it says this.

Thankyou,

-Q

Dear -Q, Sure. Gen 2:4-7 shows that man (Adam) was "formed" of the dust of the ground on the THIRD Day. This is confirmed in the New Testament by this verse:

1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is Spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is Spiritual.

That is WHY Adam was physically formed on the THIRD Day, but was NOT "created" in God's Image until the SIXTH Day. Gen 1:27 and Gen 5:1-2

Adam was made on the FIRST Earth which was totally destroyed in the Flood and Noah, a direct descendant of Adam, brought Adam's unique Human intelligence to this world of the descendants of the common ancestor of Apes. Here is the evidence and the date of this event which DESTROYS the False ToE.

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Notice the Big Lake between Mt Ararat and the center of the Fertile Crescent. It's Lake Van, a 75 mile wide Lake, which is almost 1500 feet deep in places, and the perfect place to anchor a 450 foot, covered Barge, called the Ark. Isn't it? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Originally Posted by Aman777
Are you aware that God tells us that He made Humans from the dust of the ground, on another world, and brought them to our Planet some 10k years ago, in an Ark and that Human civilization can be traced to that event? which History conirms?

None of that is confirmed. For being so god like we sure seem like animals.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Dear Riverwolf, Does natural selection produce Human intelligence in Apes?

How do you define "human intelligence", and how would you go about testing whether or not other apes have it?

'Cause as far as I can tell, elephants (which are, of course, not apes) definitely have human-like intelligence, right down to the ability to produce art. Heck, even when it comes to other apes, we can talk to them.

Since such a wild speculation cannot explain HOW or WHEN the prehistoric people of this Planet, inherited the Human intelligence of Adam, since Adam never stepped foot on this Earth. Inheriting Human intelligence from another Human Scientifically, means that ONLY the descendants of Adam are Humans.
So, basically, since there are gaps in the knowledge we have, you, unsatisfied with those gaps, declare the whole thing false and turn to the first myth you can think of that doesn't have any apparent gaps?
 
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Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Notice the Big Lake between Mt Ararat and the center of the Fertile Crescent. It's Lake Van, a 75 mile wide Lake, which is almost 1500 feet deep in places, and the perfect place to anchor a 450 foot, covered Barge, called the Ark. Isn't it?

What's the history of that lake?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Yes.



I would most likely say "indeed", not "thank you".

So yes to being an animal.
And yes again any random mention of it, even if intended as an insult.

So later on as you stand before heaven...you won't mind if they treat you like one?

Do you prefer collar?....or shackle?
 

The Neo Nerd

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Aman777
Are you aware that God tells us that He made Humans from the dust of the ground, on another world, and brought them to our Planet some 10k years ago, in an Ark and that Human civilization can be traced to that event? which History conirms?

Dear -Q, Sure. Gen 2:4-7 shows that man (Adam) was "formed" of the dust of the ground on the THIRD Day. This is confirmed in the New Testament by this verse:

1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is Spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is Spiritual.

That is WHY Adam was physically formed on the THIRD Day, but was NOT "created" in God's Image until the SIXTH Day. Gen 1:27 and Gen 5:1-2

Adam was made on the FIRST Earth which was totally destroyed in the Flood and Noah, a direct descendant of Adam, brought Adam's unique Human intelligence to this world of the descendants of the common ancestor of Apes. Here is the evidence and the date of this event which DESTROYS the False ToE.

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Notice the Big Lake between Mt Ararat and the center of the Fertile Crescent. It's Lake Van, a 75 mile wide Lake, which is almost 1500 feet deep in places, and the perfect place to anchor a 450 foot, covered Barge, called the Ark. Isn't it? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Ok so you are saying pre-flood earth was a physically separate earth to the post earth one?

Also

What rationale are you using to explain your "made on the third day" theory?
 
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Sapiens

Polymathematician
Hey there are lots of lakes, all over the world, the problem is that a boat of that size, material and design would simply sink as it came apart at the seams ... that's god's honest truth.
 

McBell

Unbound
Hey there are lots of lakes, all over the world, the problem is that a boat of that size, material and design would simply sink as it came apart at the seams ... that's god's honest truth.

Except God held Noah's Ark together with his very own hands...

CHECKMATE you doubters, CHECKMATE!!
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
So yes to being an animal.
And yes again any random mention of it, even if intended as an insult.

So later on as you stand before heaven...you won't mind if they treat you like one?

Do you prefer collar?....or shackle?
Is that how you treat animals?
 

Aman777

Bible Believer
None of that is confirmed. For being so god like we sure seem like animals.

Dear idav, You are absolutely correct, and it was all planned that way, in Genesis. What most people do not understand is that there were TWO creations of mankind. The FIRST was when Adam, the first Human, was "formed" of the dust of the ground on the 3rd Day, AFTER the first Earth was made, but BEFORE the plants and trees Grew. Gen 2:4-7

The SECOND time was when "every living creature that moveth" was Created and Brought forth, from the Water, on the 5th Day, some 3.7 Billion years ago, in man's time. Gen 1:21 FYI: Science agrees that without liquid water, the cells within our bodies, die.

Humans were FIRST made (3rd Day) and the sons of God (Prehistoric man) were made from the WATER on the 5th Day. Just because prehistoric people looked like Humans did not make them Humans. ONLY the descendants of Adam have inherited his superior Intelligence, which is like God's. Gen 3:22

It's another good example of the problems with the False ToE. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
It's another good example of the problems with the False ToE. God Bless you.

You didn't name any problem with evolution. You simply inserted your alien modified dna hypothesis which has very little standing with science because of that whole "evolution" thing.
 

Aman777

Bible Believer
How do you define "human intelligence", and how would you go about testing whether or not other apes have it?

Dear Riverwold, Human intelligence is the Ability to know both good and evil. Adam was made with the Ability to discern evil from good and with time, learned what ONLY God knew. Gen 3:22 The reason Adam was made with this Highest form of intelligence is that Humans are destined to have dominion or rule over EVERY other living creature, Gen 1:28 and this requires the Highest form of intelligence.

'Cause as far as I can tell, elephants (which are, of course, not apes) definitely have human-like intelligence, right down to the ability to produce art. Heck, even when it comes to other apes, we can talk to them.

Elephants, like ALL other living creatures, were created long AFTER Adam was made, making it impossible for them to become Humans. It's the same with all animals, including Apes.

So, basically, since there are gaps in the knowledge we have, you, unsatisfied with those gaps, declare the whole thing false and turn to the first myth you can think of that doesn't have any apparent gaps?

I read Genesis to prove it wrong and found out that the information there was so far advanced to 2014, that it was impossible for a 3k year old man to have written it, while getting EVERY scientific Truth correct. God's Truth agrees with Science and History IF you read it for what it actually says, instead of through the eyes of ancient goatherders. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 
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