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Humans love better than God

Where Is God

Creator
I was literally just moved to tears by my cousin. I decided to confess of my athiestic views on life to him, and I didn't get the response I had feared. I expected the usual "I will pray for you," or "I hope you change your mind." I was welcomed by the most heart-warming and uncondtional love as he told me that he didn't even care; he was on my side no matter what. Bros for life.

Why can't God do this? Wouldn't the world be a better place if we all loved each other, no matter what? What good is a God who can't love as much as his creations?

I just wanted to share this experience and my thoughts with you guys, being as I'm still crying a wee bit. I'm such a softie. And remember, I love you.:rainbow1::angel2:
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
How do you know God doesn't love His creation?

"O SON OF MAN! I loved thy creation, hence I created thee. Wherefore, do thou love Me, that I may name thy name and fill thy soul with the spirit of life." Hidden Words
 

Where Is God

Creator
He doesn't love them all enough to not send then to hell, according to the Bible. He also allows genocide, rape, terrorism, and picks and chooses which miracles to perform.

This is hypothetically speaking of course.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I was literally just moved to tears by my cousin. I decided to confess of my athiestic views on life to him, and I didn't get the response I had feared. I expected the usual "I will pray for you," or "I hope you change your mind." I was welcomed by the most heart-warming and uncondtional love as he told me that he didn't even care; he was on my side no matter what. Bros for life.

Why can't God do this? Wouldn't the world be a better place if we all loved each other, no matter what? What good is a God who can't love as much as his creations?

I just wanted to share this experience and my thoughts with you guys, being as I'm still crying a wee bit. I'm such a softie. And remember, I love you.:rainbow1::angel2:

Well, based on my religion and concept of God, that love you express and the love your cousin expresses IS the very love of God.
 
ALLAH(GOD) love 70 times more then a mother love....so how can you say that He is not. ALLAH knows what is better for you and He is watching your next step.
 
It seems to me that God sending Jesus to undeservedly die on a cross in order to save the mankind (including the people who nailed him up there) was a fairly big act of love (on both their parts.) I don't recall hearing of a human showing that kind of love. From this perspective I'd argue that God loves better than humans do.
 

Gloone

Well-Known Member
I was literally just moved to tears by my cousin. I decided to confess of my athiestic views on life to him, and I didn't get the response I had feared. I expected the usual "I will pray for you," or "I hope you change your mind." I was welcomed by the most heart-warming and uncondtional love as he told me that he didn't even care; he was on my side no matter what. Bros for life.

Why can't God do this? Wouldn't the world be a better place if we all loved each other, no matter what? What good is a God who can't love as much as his creations?

I just wanted to share this experience and my thoughts with you guys, being as I'm still crying a wee bit. I'm such a softie. And remember, I love you.:rainbow1::angel2:
Well that is good to know. Better to let it out than keep it bottled up. ;)
 

Morpheus

Member
I was literally just moved to tears by my cousin. I decided to confess of my athiestic views on life to him, and I didn't get the response I had feared. I expected the usual "I will pray for you," or "I hope you change your mind." I was welcomed by the most heart-warming and uncondtional love as he told me that he didn't even care; he was on my side no matter what. Bros for life.

Why can't God do this? Wouldn't the world be a better place if we all loved each other, no matter what? What good is a God who can't love as much as his creations?

I just wanted to share this experience and my thoughts with you guys, being as I'm still crying a wee bit. I'm such a softie. And remember, I love you.:rainbow1::angel2:
What if God is the source of all love, and he has given us humans the choice to connect with this love or to not connect with this love.
When something happens that we attribute to God, and this something does not demonstrate love, is this event 'bad', or perhaps our understanding of Gods world is incomplete?
Lets take a very simple and basic example: I lose my job. Thats bad and I think God is punishing me. But the next day I am offered a better job than the one I had. Now I am happy. Was God punishing me or meerly preparing my future for something better?
In ANY event, we judge too soon - even in death - we have no bigger vision than of this mortal realm - we are making assumptions which may or may not be true. The atheist say "prove it", the theist can reply "disprove it". The fact is none of us know enough to judge.
 

chinu

chinu
I was literally just moved to tears by my cousin. I decided to confess of my athiestic views on life to him, and I didn't get the response I had feared. I expected the usual "I will pray for you," or "I hope you change your mind." I was welcomed by the most heart-warming and uncondtional love as he told me that he didn't even care; he was on my side no matter what. Bros for life.

Why can't God do this? Wouldn't the world be a better place if we all loved each other, no matter what? What good is a God who can't love as much as his creations?

I just wanted to share this experience and my thoughts with you guys, being as I'm still crying a wee bit. I'm such a softie. And remember, I love you.:rainbow1::angel2:

Because, these are not your atheistic views, this is your EGO, or it can also be said as, that you have kept "Atheistic views" the name of your EGO.

:sorry1: if these words pinch your "Mind", but i know this is good for your "Soul"

Try to understand.:)

_/\_
Chinu
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
It seems to me that God sending Jesus to undeservedly die on a cross in order to save the mankind (including the people who nailed him up there) was a fairly big act of love (on both their parts.) I don't recall hearing of a human showing that kind of love. From this perspective I'd argue that God loves better than humans do.
I do recall (within your very own stories) Abraham, willing to do the same barbarous thing, to appease the Demiurge.
 
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Luminous

non-existential luminary
Because, these are not your atheistic views, this is your EGO, or it can also be said as, that you have kept "Atheistic views" the name of your EGO.

:sorry1: if these words pinch your "Mind", but i know this is good for your "Soul"

Try to understand.:)

_/\_
Chinu
What have YOU named your EGO?
words don't "pinch" minds. the mind pinches itself. How do you know he even has a "Soul" yet lacks a "Hababaloo"?
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
What RW said.
My God ain't a judgemental "RAR YOU DO WRONG, ME THROW LIGHTNING AT YOU!" God. :D
 

chinu

chinu
words don't "pinch" minds. the mind pinches itself.
The words which are good for "Soul" always pinches "Mind" and the words which are good for "Mind" always pinches "Soul".

How do you know he even has a "Soul" yet lacks a "Hababaloo"?
Like: as i know that "He" has blood in "His" body :)

_/\_
Chinu
 

Where Is God

Creator
It seems to me that God sending Jesus to undeservedly die on a cross in order to save the mankind (including the people who nailed him up there) was a fairly big act of love (on both their parts.) I don't recall hearing of a human showing that kind of love. From this perspective I'd argue that God loves better than humans do.

I would argue that there have been many self less humans before, possibly even ones who sacrifice their own lives for others.

And that God isn't real. Plus God is "saving us" from something he made us do.
 

Wombat

Active Member
I was literally just moved to tears by my cousin. I decided to confess of my athiestic views on life to him, and I didn't get the response I had feared. I expected the usual "I will pray for you," or "I hope you change your mind." I was welcomed by the most heart-warming and uncondtional love as he told me that he didn't even care; he was on my side no matter what. Bros for life.

1/ First and formost....Glad to hear you have family that demonstrate- "Unconditional Non Judgemental Positive Regard" (WelfareSector NewSpeak for 'Love');)

Why can't God do this?

Ummmm....Not at all sure that it has been demonstrated/confirmed that God "cannot/does not" "do this".

Wouldn't the world be a better place if we all loved each other, no matter what?

Certainly...That's the stated Golden Rule objective of all major religious tradition...even unto "if we all loved each other" and the 'other' was a dedicated and determined enemy who sought us/ours harm. Love the person...deplore and restrain the abberent behaviour when possible.

What good is a God who can't love as much as his creations?

Again...a propisition yet to be established/demonstrated.

I just wanted to share this experience and my thoughts with you guys, being as I'm still crying a wee bit. I'm such a softie. And remember, I love you.:rainbow1::angel2:

Glad you did share...glad you had the oportunity in an obstensibly 'imperfect' world of fear, doubt, uncertainty, trepidation as to how your views may be received by family to be reassured and vulnerable enough to shed a tear.

It's a good thing....I'm glad/grateful you shared it with us.

From #3
"He doesn't love them all enough to not send then to hell, according to the Bible.

I would need something a bit more specific in the way of scripture to understand 'who' it is you believe the Bible says will be "sent to hell"


He also allows genocide, rape, terrorism, and picks and chooses which miracles to perform."

Yes...In the context of free will, the right and ability to choose to do harm to others, God "allows genocide, rape, terrorism"...and does so in the context of the repeated assurance, throughout history, that we are not just material beings that can be destroyed but souls to which ultimately no harm can be done. Exception being those individuals who knowingly/willingly comit "genocide, rape, terrorism" and consequently find their souls suffering as a direct consequence.

(The alternative/materialist universe/cosmology is one in which countless murderers/rapists profit from their behaviour and get away scot free....?)
 
Where Is God said:
I would argue that there have been many self less humans before, possibly even ones who sacrifice their own lives for others.
I agree, but how many of them sacrificed themselves for the eternal benefit of those who were trying to kill them? I don't think the two are comparable, or if they were to be compared, the act of Jesus would seem more selfless, and therefore "better."

Where Is God said:
And that God isn't real. Plus God is "saving us" from something he made us do.
If He's not real (and therefore is not capable of loving "better" than your cousin, as He doesn't exist,) then this "debate" thread has no point. In order to debate the topic of God not loving as well as humans do, it must be assumed that both humans and God exist. If you think the God I'm referring to isn't real, then perhaps you could clarify to which God your OP refers (although based on your 2nd post it seems you are talking about the God in the Bible, and we are in fact both referring to the same God.)

In addition, if he's not real he can't have made us do it. Assuming that He is real (as this debate requires,) I don't think the idea of Him "saving us" (as portrayed in the Bible,) from something He "made us do" lines up with the concept of judgement (as portrayed in the Bible.) I think it highly unlikely that God would accept the accounts of people like Hitler and Pol Pot (or anyone else who has ever disobeyed God, including myself, along with the rest of humanity) if when we face judgement we were to try to excuse our behaviour by saying to God "You made me do it."
 
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