Hunter Biden convicted

[Saint Frankenstein]

Like I said, I've never watched an entire episode!

I usually never watch the whole episode. Only the first segment, which is them running their mouths about politics. That's when they say the most ridiculous nonsense. The rest is just typical daytime fare - interviewing guests and then trying to sell you crap.

 

[We Never Know]

Why even get up in the morning if your view of humanity is that negative?

Negative. Lmao. That's funny coming from a negative nelly.

I do believe Biden will pardon Hunter before he leaves office.

 

[Kathryn]

I usually never watch the whole episode. Only the first segment, which is them running their mouths about politics. That's when they say the most ridiculous nonsense. The rest is just typical daytime fare - Interviewing guests and then trying to sell you crap.

Ugh.

 

[oldbadger]

Right now Biden doesn't care.

How could you get that so wrong?
By the way....do you believe that Mr Trump can lose the election?

 

[oldbadger]

I do believe Biden will pardon Hunter before he leaves office.

Most folks believe that both Hunter and Trump will receive fines.
How in tune with things do you think you are?

 

[metis]

Right now Biden doesn't care. After the election, win or lose, all he has to do is pardon him.

He said he wouldn't.

 

[metis]

You're only the second person I know who apparently regularly watches The View! I've never seen an entire episode.

My wife watches every one and I usually do as well while sucking espresso.

 

[metis]

Most folks believe that both Hunter and Trump will receive fines.

Quite possibly. However, if you or I committed 34 felonies, what are the chances we would just be given a fine?

 

[oldbadger]

Quite possibly. However, if you or I committed 34 felonies, what are the chances we would just be given a fine?

Exactly what felonies? Saying you've given up drugs on a gun app? Fibbing over a hush payment's origin? Etc?

US States seem to bang folks up for just about anything....true?

 

[metis]

Exactly what felonies? Saying you've given up drugs on a gun app? Fibbing over a hush payment's origin? Etc?

US States seem to bang folks up for just about anything....true?

Felonies are felonies-- period. If one knows what the law is and the possible penalties and yet goes ahead and violates one or more of them, then this is on them.

 

[Pogo]

Exactly what felonies? Saying you've given up drugs on a gun app? Fibbing over a hush payment's origin? Etc?

US States seem to bang folks up for just about anything....true?

Yup. that is true though the gun rap is usually reserved for drug dealers when they can't get them on an actual drug charge or for bargaining leverage.
The fraud felony is common in that while it is hush money here, it is used more for hiding things like purchases or expenses to avoid taxes or disclaim ownership etc and NYS uses it quite frequently though it again may be used as a bargaining chip in a more difficult to prove case.
That is our justice system.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Quite possibly. However, if you or I committed 34 felonies, what are the chances we would just be given a fine?

That's exactly the same logic on how Trump can get all 34 counts as being guilty.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Felonies are felonies-- period. If one knows what the law is and the possible penalties and yet goes ahead and violates one or more of them, then this is on them.

How a misdemeanor was made into a felony is another story.

 

[Pogo]

That's exactly the same logic on how Trump can get all 34 counts as being guilty.

Again because it was 34 actions each of which was a crime though actually 11 sets of three actions and one extra check written IIRC to make a total of 34. He created 11 sets of bogus entries to cover up the total payment, all basically the same and so if guilty on one, pretty much guaranteed to be guilty of all. Which is why sentences are normally concurrent and in first offenses without aggravating factors only gets fine and probation.

 

[Pogo]

How a misdemeanor was made into a felony is another story.

Yes and as has been explained numerous times, the individual actions are a misdemeanor unless perpetrated to hide or facilitate another crime.
It is all in the paperwork, anybody can read it.

 

[oldbadger]

Yup. that is true though the gun rap is usually reserved for drug dealers when they can't get them on an actual drug charge or for bargaining leverage.
The fraud felony is common in that while it is hush money here, it is used more for hiding things like purchases or expenses to avoid taxes or disclaim ownership etc and NYS uses it quite frequently though it again may be used as a bargaining chip in a more difficult to prove case.
That is our justice system.

Fair enough.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes and as has been explained numerous times, the individual actions are a misdemeanor unless perpetrated to hide or facilitate another crime.
It is all in the paperwork, anybody can read it.

It is a bit like Watergate. The crimes committed at the Watergate hotel were all rather minor. It was the lying and the coverup that turned them into impeachable offenses.

 

[metis]

How a misdemeanor was made into a felony is another story.

I would suggest that you and I are not the judge and jury.

 

[metis]

It is a bit like Watergate. The crimes committed at the Watergate hotel were all rather minor. It was the lying and the coverup that turned them into impeachable offenses.

Exactly!!!

 

[Tomef]

What will those sillies be telling us now?

Never underestimate the power of idiocy.