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I Am A Good Person, Therefore, I'm Going To Heaven!

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I think that Spirit need not be a King sized father-like figure. I am in search of The Father. Have you found him?

By the way, anyone who might control every jot and tittle through many, many people is paying attention to the wrong things imo.
Creator and Almighty

stands to reason.....in the scheme of superlatives....in the scheme of life
ONE shall have the will that cannot be set aside
Almighty
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
there's something shallow about a claim to search for knowledge......
all the while denying the ability to know

knowledge is not limited to what you can prove.

I am certain we spend the rest of eternity with others that think and feel as we do

and people ......unsure.....
will be grouped to other s likewise.....
the ones that don't know
WHAT? Have we lost you Thief? He doubts 100% is possible. So do I and I love the Bible and Jesus.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Creator and Almighty

stands to reason.....in the scheme of superlatives....in the scheme of life
ONE shall have the will that cannot be set aside
Almighty
I agree with you. But does the Almighty care for me? I know the one called Jesus does. Am I 100% certain? I do not need to be.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I agree with you. But does the Almighty care for me? I know the one called Jesus does. Am I 100% certain? I do not need to be.
now my turn for doubt...with a twist of certainty.....

there are 7billion+ people on this earth

Why choose of mediocrity when the best are present to choose from

why lend any notice to doubters?

When questioned the Carpenter replied.....Tempt Me not.....for my hour is not yet upon Me

I believe that one item of certainty.....to be chosen
remains in the weigh scale until after the last breath

as long as you are breathing....you are at risk
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I hear this all the time. "I'm good, therefore I'm going to heaven."
Don't know about Jesus, but yes, if you have tried to help others in their trouble and not caused pain to others, then surely, you will go to heaven.

"Paropakāram punyāya, pāpāya parapīdanam." (Helping others is merit, causing pain to others is sin)
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Don't know about Jesus, but, yes, if you have not caused pain to others and tried to help them, then you will go to heaven.

"Paropakāram punyāya, pāpāya parapeedanam." (Helping others is merit, causing pain to others is sin)
so the whipping at the Temple......by the Carpenter's own hand......
is a no no
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Sorry, don't understand that.
the story I got.....

He made a scourge of knotted cord.....entered the Temple.....and said......
Get out!
(a simple paraphrase)

at the time of a Passover the Temple would be full
any Jew that could be there would be in the Temple.......wall to wall.....shoulder to shoulder

to have anyone enter the door and pronounce Anything that sounds like...Get OUT!
would be met with disbelief and silence

but as I read the story........I could almost hear it.....
someone laughed

and then the beating began

and did not stop until He stood alone
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
now my turn for doubt...with a twist of certainty.....

there are 7billion+ people on this earth

Why choose of mediocrity when the best are present to choose from

why lend any notice to doubters?

When questioned the Carpenter replied.....Tempt Me not.....for my hour is not yet upon Me

I believe that one item of certainty.....to be chosen
remains in the weigh scale until after the last breath

as long as you are breathing....you are at risk
I think you might be making believing greater than The Lord. I realize that there is nothing greater than Jehovah. But presently, it seems to me, that there is a lot that is better than Jehovah. I believe 100% that God's will is to conceive Jehovah best.
 
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Thief

Rogue Theologian
I think you might be making believing greater than The Lord. I realize that there is nothing greater than Jehovah. But presently, it seems to me, that there is a lot that is better than Jehovah. I believe 100% that God's will is to make Jehovah best.
God believing in Himself?
I suppose He does.....He said unto Moses....I AM!
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
and then the beating began

So much for turning the other cheek! :eek:

The Perfect One flips his lid!

chasing-out-the-moneychangers.jpg
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
So much for turning the other cheek! :eek:

The Perfect One flips his lid!

chasing-out-the-moneychangers.jpg
I think that picture is wrong. It is not written that the birds were let loose.

Can we think? Jesus drove out the animal sacrifices. Then, what did the people do? If money was your prime objective, what would YOU do?
 
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