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I Am A Good Person, Therefore, I'm Going To Heaven!

Muffled

Jesus in me
I don't think belief in either Heaven or God is necessary for either to exist. And, I don't believe that belief in heaven is necessary for one to belong there.

I don't believe anyone belongs there except God of course. Some people like my wife who spent so much time there tend to think of it as home but I believe we belong in life. In other words that is where we should be.
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
I believe if it is the assumption of Mary that appears to be a Roman Catholic fairy tale.

It is interesting to see someone who believes in fairy tales categorize other people's beliefs as fairy tales.

At least you know how someone like me must feel when I hear people talk about Jesus rising from the dead and flying off into the clouds like a swarthy Superman. ;)
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
It is interesting to see someone who believes in fairy tales categorize other people's beliefs as fairy tales.

At least you know how someone like me must feel when I hear people talk about Jesus rising from the dead and flying off into the clouds like a swarthy Superman. ;)
yeah....I don't buy it either
especially nowadays when we know very well ....above our heads....beneath our feet
various places small and large

but of course there's that language problem
"He went to heaven
overhead
to God
where else could He have gone?

so maybe His body was stolen by his followers
and the Roman guards were paid to be quiet....or be executed for failing their guard

I believe He survives His death

if He failed the fate of Man is death
and the existence of Man is a complete mystery without resolve.....or purpose
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
But there were "witnesses" that saw him fly up into the clouds!

I hope he brought his extra tunic, it gets awfully cold up there.
and then the blood boils....and the eyes pop out of your head.....

not sure what the witnesses saw....I wasn't there
 
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Muffled

Jesus in me
It is interesting to see someone who believes in fairy tales categorize other people's beliefs as fairy tales.

At least you know how someone like me must feel when I hear people talk about Jesus rising from the dead and flying off into the clouds like a swarthy Superman. ;)

I believe we have textual evidence and the Roman Catholics do not.

I believe your assumption that things you are not able to personally verify are fairy tales to be false.

I do not believe in fairy tales. I believe what the witnesses said. I also believe that if there was a problem with that Jesus would let me know and He hasn't.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
. I also believe that if there was a problem with that Jesus would let me know and He hasn't.
To be knowing what someone else would do or would not do is to be that person imo. Jesus walks the way of Holiness and on the way of Holiness is no one who isn't holy. Are you clinging to something that is not holy? Then you can't walk the way of Jesus Christ and if you are not walking his way, how is he talking to you?
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
yeah....I don't buy it either
especially nowadays when we know very well ....above our heads....beneath our feet
various places small and large

but of course there's that language problem
"He went to heaven
overhead
to God
where else could He have gone?

so maybe His body was stolen by his followers
and the Roman guards were paid to be quiet....or be executed for failing their guard

I believe He survives His death

if He failed the fate of Man is death
and the existence of Man is a complete mystery without resolve.....or purpose

I believe you are believing in fairy tales.

I believe ascension had a purpose ie that He did not just lift off into the air and return and is still with us but rather that there was a way for Him to get somewhere other than this earth. For instance Elijah had a chariot of fire to take him elsewhere.

I believe that is nothing more than a false rumor spread by the Chief Priests who were not willing for people to know the truth.

There is no evidence to support this concept. One does not survive death but one may be resurrected from it.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
To be knowing what someone else would do or would not do is to be that person imo. Jesus walks the way of Holiness and on the way of Holiness is no one who isn't holy. Are you clinging to something that is not holy? Then you can't walk the way of Jesus Christ and if you are not walking his way, how is he talking to you?

I believe that hits the nail on the head.

I believe I am not.
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
I believe your assumption that things you are not able to personally verify are fairy tales to be false.

But you made the same assumption about...wait for it...the Assumption. :)

If you can categorize Mary rising up bodily into heaven as a fairy tale, isn't it perfectly understandable and acceptable for me to categorize Jesus rising up bodily into heaven as a fairy tale?
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
I believe as God in the flesh He has the power to create his own heat bubble.

LOL! I haven't heard that one before, I like it. Heat Bubble Jesus.

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jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
But you made the same assumption about...wait for it...the Assumption. :)

If you can categorize Mary rising up bodily into heaven as a fairy tale, isn't it perfectly understandable and acceptable for me to categorize Jesus rising up bodily into heaven as a fairy tale?


y y y y you mean it's IS a fairy tale! g g g g GULP! You mean the Creation story about
Adam being breathed into existence from dirt ain't so???????????????

O.M.G. What ever shall I do?

Everyone knows god beamed jesus up to the Enterprise!

Oh, oh, I'm hell bound again!:eek:

I'll be listening to Satan dressed in red tights playing Pink Floyd records backwards listening for the hidden messages.:confused:
 
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