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I am done with Trump discussions

Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
The Hammer said:
It's almost like we've shredded and lost any semblance of a "national" identity in which we all rally behind irrespective of our other beliefs.
Walmart
We did once scream from the rooftops after 9/11 "United we stand, divided we fall".

It seems our enemies tok note.,
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I remember hunting for an American flag on 9/11 and I finally found THE LAST ONE at WalMart of all places. Or was it Lowe's? Anyway it was the last one in the big box store.
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
Clizby Wampuscat said:
Another person that cannot have a conversation without bringing trump into it. It’s a sickness.
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1. If it’s a sickness then even you are infected. You started a thread insisting you’re done with what the topic is. Irony at work.

2. Trump is running for president. Any candidate deserves being discussed with less than three weeks to go.

3. Trump does attract an abnormal amount of discussion given his odd popularity, his mental decline, his criminal history, his poor judgment, and ineptitude at management. He’s the worst popular candidate in recent history.
Clizby Wampuscat said:
I find it strange that people that are against trumps insults have no problem insulting him. Double standard much?
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It’s not a double standard to point out his many severe character flaws. He has a criminal mindset. He is exploiting conservatives with emotional rhetoric that is both untrue (dogs and cats being eaten, democrats are the enemy within) and divisive. It is astounding how well manipulates the minds of conservatives. His policies are often based on false problems (like migrants murdering our citizens and tariffs bringing back manufacturing) and the solutions will actually cause more problems.

So you don’t care about his character but like his policies. Why not try to articulate them and try to argue how they are superior to what Biden has done and what Harris proposes?
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
wellwisher said:
Trump insults people with comedy. He does not attack with hate or fear. Crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe, is funny. The worst president and Vice President in history is an exaggeration, making it funny.

The Left is very pretentious, and name calling, with humor, hurts their ego. Trump does not pretend, but he is a doer. The root word, of the word pretentious is "pretend", which includes lies and false aires. Humor seems to cut through that mask and brings out their worst, thereby messing up the pretend, by letting out their inner nasty person, that hide behind the mask.

Trump reminds me of an old fashion guy from an all male construction site, where insulting each other is like a daily male sport. This male sport was sanitized by women liberation and affirmative action. The gals felt uncomfortable, invading the male world, so the men had to stop and not the women adapt; push toward feminization.

Trump brought this male hazing back, to help liberate the men. Historically, men fought in war and to prepare for war, you need to endure hardship, so one needs to be hardened and desensitized. This is done by men, on the same team, practicing with each other, in simulated war conditions. Name calling and insults will toughen you up emotionally; desensitized you so it rolls off you. The Left tries to sanitize comedy. In a job site, you can work and insult at the same time.

In 2016, PC was the Lefty meme,, which means politically correct. That term is not used anymore. It was a pretentious game, designed to control the narrative. One of Trump's major issues was PC, since it was a form of censorship that always benefited the Left. There was no PC to protect religion. There was no PC terms to protect the Political Right or even men. It was a censorship game. Trump did the opposite to help men man up.

PC was a feminization strategy. Men are misogynistic, even though Lefty women hate men more. Females tend to be less Trump friendly. Trumps threatens to let the men out of their PC cages. This year the cages are opening, especially among minority men, who are no longer wish to be with the program, while getting nothing. Obama threatened black men to get back in the DNC cage and vote Harris or be called misogynistic; shackle. The men prefer Trump, since he is an old time male who is tough as toenails. They miss those good ole days of anything goes comedy hazing.
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Oh cool, mental gymnastics mixed with sexism.
Sounds about on par for MAGA.

I'm a female who doesn't support men who sexually assault people. Super weird, right? I must be one of those weirdo "Lefty women." :rolleyes:
Do "righty women" support sexual assaulters??
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
Kathryn said:
@Clizby Wampuscat, they really do believe this. It's pitiful. And you don't even have to be a MAGA to get the wrath of Khan thrown at you. All you have to do is be right wing rather than whatever they think they are.
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So you think Mark Milley and Liz Cheney are wrong? They actually know him. They actually worked with him. And what we citizens see and hear is often consistent with fascism. Explain your position.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Kathryn said:
@Clizby Wampuscat, they really do believe this. It's pitiful. And you don't even have to be a MAGA to get the wrath of Khan thrown at you. All you have to do is be right wing rather than whatever they think they are.
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It's why I challenge the left wing to find somebody who openly advocates fascism as much as they on their side had already advocated socialism for which I actually can show real world examples.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Twilight Hue said:
It's why I challenge the left wing to find somebody who openly advocates fascism as much as they on their side had already advocated socialism for which I actually can show real world examples.
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That single silly video you keep posting isn't the big flex you think it is.

Many posters have outlined the fascistic things Trump has said and done and they’ve all gone ignored and brushed aside.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
SkepticThinker said:
That single silly video you keep posting isn't the big flex you think it is.

Many posters have outlined the fascistic things Trump has said and done and they’ve all gone ignored and brushed aside.
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Know that video is actually fairly significant in addition to those who have already registered with the DSA for no other reason because that the party of the Democrats gladly accept these people into their ranks.

There is no objection , there is no contention over it, which means the party actually advocates it whether they want to say it out loud or not , and that is what makes it big and extremely dangerous for our constitutional republic.
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
F1fan said:
So you think Mark Milley and Liz Cheney are wrong? They actually know him. They actually worked with him. And what we citizens see and hear is often consistent with fascism. Explain your position.
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No. I have explained it over and over again and am disinclined to explain it again.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Twilight Hue said:
Know that video is actually fairly significant in addition to those who have already registered with the DSA for no other reason because that the party of the Democrats gladly accept these people into their ranks.

There is no objection , there is no contention over it, which means the party actually advocates it whether they want to say it out loud or not , and that is what makes it big and extremely dangerous for our constitutional republic.
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Are you equating socialism with Democratic socialism?

Why you think a couple people in a video equates to "the party actually advocates it" is beyond me. Where has the Democratic Party advocated for socialism, like, ever? They're corporatists, for the most part. So that doesn't make much sense. They didn't exactly embrace Bernie Sanders democratic socialism, now did they? They pushed him aside and ran Hillary Clinton instead.
 
Argentbear

Argentbear

Well-Known Member
Twilight Hue said:
It's why I challenge the left wing to find somebody who openly advocates fascism as much as they on their side had already advocated socialism for which I actually can show real world examples.
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Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

Authoritarian: This is the idea that our country should be governed by a strong leader who doesn’t have to bother with Congress the restrictions of the constitution or elections. We can all see Trump in these words. Trumps attempts to subvert the constitution and the election of 2020, his attempts to force Mike Pence to commit treason and his continued denial of the reality that he lost the election says all this pretty loudly.

They are more likely to support limiting the freedom of the press and agree that the media is the enemy of the people rather than a valuable independent institution. Fake news anyone?

They are also more likely to think the president should have the power to limit the voice and vote of opposition parties, while believing that those who disagree with them are a threat to our country.

Authoritarians fear diversity. They are more likely to agree that increasing racial, religious and ethnic diversity is a clear and present threat to the nation and society. They are more fearful of people of other races, religions and orientations.

Trump has sent paramilitary forces from the Department of Homeland Security to quell nonviolent protests, looked the other way when a foreign power interferes in American elections, celebrated the wounding of a journalist by police as “a beautiful sight,” and spent an election year casting doubt on the very basis of our democracy, the electoral system, rather than working to protect it—all without eroding his main base of support.
 
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